On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 12:59:14PM -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > This sounds like a huge waste of time - rather than abandoning something > as immensely useful as hotplug, just get the bug in the USB driver > fixed! AFAICT all the people having this problem are using really old > kernels anyway. It's idiotic to abandon hotplug just because you don't > want to upgrade your kernel to fix a known bug. Whoa, hang on. I don't have the problem identified by the original poster. I'm just a thread hijacker ::-). My particular bias against hotplug is two-fold: 1) It is far more difficult to understand than /etc/rc.d 2) The only USB device I have is a MIDI interface, which I just want to leave plugged in. #1 - sometimes, hotplug doesn't "coldplug" my device properly. I don't really know why, and re-plugging the thing in usually works. I don't understand why they should be different processes. It's a minor headache that I'd rather just relieve with a shell script. Problem is, my Midisport needs firmware loaded. I need to make use of hotplug's firmware facilities, since I cannot predict where in /proc/bus/usb/ the device node will appear. #2 - I don't need hotplugging! This is a desktop machine that never changes. I have all of one device. hotplug seems a little like overkill in my degenerate (but probably very common) case. Trust me - if I was losing mouse and keyboard, I'd be all over that kernel upgrade! -- Ross Vandegrift ross@xxxxxxxxxxxx "The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell." --St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37