> Really OT: Quite true.. But it's really sad to manage a community portal > without any cash input to pay the efforts! Efforts are: time, code, > service > quality, bandwidth, webspace and so on... > I must say although that Ads in the last 2 years gives me nothing at all > (Google pays after 100$, and I gain no more than 40$!). And its hard > enough > to gain some donations to the cause (I had a donation of 30 EUR in 3 years > and a half)... > I suppose that service / contents of OpenJay.org is not good enough to > gain > donators attention. I'm working to improve it every day. But there is > nothing > bad to try to take back some money with ads... I think ;-P > > What about? OT (always, sorry): I second you on the fact that effort to give a reliable and free community website is rarely rewarded :( . When I began with oneshotsamples.com, people was able to register freely. Two years later, the solely reward I had was a copyright infringment pursuit, that hopefully ended well for me. Now people needs to be invited by members or must donate a buck to get an invite from me :) Nevertheless ads are not allowed at the Hyperreal.org hosting and I finally agree with this. But sacrifice is a big component of the Free Software Ideology isn't it ? Our developper friends can testify on this... Regards. Philippe PS : I recall that I will be happy to give *free* invitation to LAU and LAD users ;)