http://blog.dis-dot-dat.net/2005/11/not-taking-things-seriously.html Feel free to laugh at this - I did. It's a bit different for me. It has real guitars, for a start. Comments are, as always, craved and waited for with bated breath. James -- "I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated Development That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you." (By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)