Yo Shayne, maybe it's some sort of revenge :P just kidding. > >>Shayne O'Connor wrote: > >>>>lately, when using dssi-vst, that a lot of the plugins i used to > >>>> use successfully are now crashing when i load them, and when > >>>> they crash i am automatically logged out!? What do you mean? Your X Session terminating? If so see ~/.X.err. The bash session you're calling this from gets killed? If so redirect the stuff that gets printed in the terminal into a file like $ plugincall > log.txt or $ plugincall 2>&1 | cat > log.txt Wolfgang