Oops, sorry, my previous message was not meant to go to the entire
list. Of course, if it interests you, feel free to read it anyway ;)
Just keep in mind that the attachment is a rather rough piece of code
that I didn't intend to distribute in its current form...
Best,
Peter
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 10:59:21PM +0200, Peter Brinkmann wrote:
>
> David,
> It's been a while, but I finally got around to thinking about how I would
> properly implement something like MagicBaton in Python, and I've got a
> prototype that essentially works the way you describe.
>
> If you're interested, here's how to install and run the new code:
> - Install the latest version of MidiKinesis, available at
> http://www.math.tu-berlin.de/~brinkman/software/midikinesis/
> Once you've unpacked the tarball, say 'make' in the midikinesis
> directory.
> - Install the Python Midi package. There's a link on the MidiKinesis
> page. I guess the easiest (but not the nicest) way to make this work
> is to simply dump the contents of the Python Midi package in the
> midikinesis directory.
> - Save the attached boaconductor.py in the midikinesis directory.
>
> Now find a MIDI file that you want to experiment with. I like Matthias
> Nagorni's MIDI files, available at
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=69130&package_id=121417
>
> Just to make sure that your setup works, see whether you can play a MIDI
> files with the midiplayer.py, by saying
> python midiplayer.py file.mid
> After starting this program, you need to hook up the MIDI output ports of
> midiplayer.py to some synthesizer(s). I simply plug it into my digital piano.
> When that's done, hit return, and you should hear the piece.
>
> Now, to experiment with BoaConductor, you essentially do the same thing:
> python boaconductor.py file.mid
> Once again you need to hook up the MIDI output ports to some synthesizer(s),
> and then you can start directing by tracing out circles in the GUI of
> BoaConductor.
>
> Since this is just a proof of concept at this point, I have spent a lot
> of time on the user interface. In particular, right now any configuration
> has to be done in the code itself. Here are the parameters you may want
> to play with:
> - self.gain: This one lets you increase or decrease the number of
> quarters that one full revolution of the mouse corresponds to.
> - self.tempo and self.volume: These are objects that use an
> averaging process of sorts in order to remove the wobble that
> imprecise mouse motions tend to cause. They have some parameters
> that can be tweaked in order to make them more or less responsive.
> I put a comment in the code to this effect. (In case you're
> mathematically inclined, I'm using Kalman filters in order to
> remove wobble without incurring too much latency.)
>
> I'm also generating MIDI Master Volume messages based on the average
> radius of the circles you're drawing, but my piano seems to ignore
> them. It would be interesting to know whether they work on your
> side.
>
> I'd be interested to hear how you like the new gadget. As I said,
> it's very rough around the edges at the moment, but I think it shows
> that the general idea works. I'm also having a lot of fun with it.
> Any thoughts would be appreciated!
> Best,
> Peter
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 09:39:07AM +0200, David Baron wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday 19 January 2005 19:02,
> > linux-audio-user-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > So how would Raton-Conductor work? Again, not as simple as it sounds.
> > > > Minimally, one would move the mouse in a ecliptic (or circular) motion
> > > > (as suggested by MagicBaton's instructions for beginners). The size of
> > > > the vertical diameter (or average diameter) would be the
> > > > volume/expression and tempo or time-codes set by the change in vertical
> > > > direction from down to up. Real conducting patterns are more complex but
> > > > these two principals would more or less remain.
> > >
> > > I started tinkering after I read your message, and I created a little
> > > gadget that traces mouse motions and recognizes fairly general conducting
> > > patterns. One can extract timing and intensity information for the purpose
> > > of generating MIDI clock events as well as MIDI controller values. I'm
> > > tentatively calling it Boa Conductor.
> >
> > Cool!
> > >
> > > I've got a few questions:
> > > ? ? 1. Is anyone interested in a tool like Boa Conductor? What I've done so
> > > ? ? far was just for kicks; I now have to decide how much time and effort
> > > ? ? to put into polishing it.
> >
> > I, of course, would be interested.
> >
> > > ? ? 2. Are there any MIDI sequencers/players for Linux that can be driven
> > > ? ? by external clock messages? My understanding is that Rosegarden does
> > > ? ? not currently work as a slave but that may change in the future.
> > > ? ? MusE can work as a slave, but I never used it before (has anyone
> > > ? ? tried driving MusE with clock messages?). I don't think timidity
> > > ? ? expects to be driven by a MIDI clock. How about other MIDI players?
> > > ? ? 3. Would it make sense to have a feature that uses JACK Transport
> > > ? ? rather than MIDI clock?
> >
> > There are a few alternatives. Not much that I have on Windows or Linux support
> > clock messages. MagicBaton was a MIDI-player that added events based on the
> > mouse-conducting.
> >
> > Alternatives:
> >
> > 1. Run the Boa in Parallel with whatever sequencer or player is going through
> > jack or such. Boa would then put out simply omni/overall level and tempo
> > events.
> >
> > 2. Run Boa as a plug-in Rosegarten, Muse or other such program. In this case,
> > it would work on one track/channel and insert expression (and tempos) or in
> > an omni mode as above. For rehearsing (MagitBaton's parlance) one track, one
> > would probably want to disable tempo changes and conduct expression.
> > Omin/overall would do level and tempo.
> >
> > 3. Controlling another software via midi-clock and some volume control device.
> > This assume, naturally, that this software is available :-)
> >
> >
>
> --
> #!/usr/bin/python
> # $Id: boaconductor.py,v 1.8 2005/06/19 17:57:52 brinkman Exp $
> # Peter Brinkmann (brinkman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
>
> from Tkinter import *
> from math import *
> import time
> from pyseq import *
> from midiplayer import *
>
> class SimpleKalman:
> def __init__(self, p, q, r):
> self.p=p
> self.q=q
> self.r=r
> self.x=None
> def next(self, x):
> if self.x is None:
> self.x=x
> return x
> pm=self.p+self.q
> k=pm/(pm+self.r)
> self.x+=k*(x-self.x)
> self.p=(1-k)*pm
> return self.x
>
>
> class BoaConductor(Frame):
> def __init__(self, tune, parent):
> self.seq=PlaySeq(tune)
> self.ev=snd_seq_event()
> Frame.__init__(self, parent)
> self.pack(fill=X, expand=YES)
> self.master.title('BoaConductor')
> self.height=self.width=500
> self.xc, self.yc=self.width/2, self.height/2
> self.x=self.y=None
> self.gain=1
> self.phi0=4*pi
> self.callhandle=None
> self.paused=0
> self.start()
> self.cv=Canvas(self, width=self.width, height=self.height,
> relief=SUNKEN, borderwidth=2)
> self.cv.pack()
> Button(self, text='Restart', command=self.start).pack()
> Button(self, text='Quit', command=self.cleanup).pack()
> self.cv.bind('<Enter>', self.handleEntrance)
> self.cv.bind('<Motion>', self.handleMotion)
> self.cv.create_line(self.xc, 0, self.xc, self.height)
> self.cv.create_line(0, self.yc, self.width, self.yc)
> def cleanup(self):
> self.seq.handleSignal()
> self.quit()
> def handleEntrance(self, e):
> self.x, self.y=e.x, e.y
> def setTempoMTV(self, omega):
> self.seq.q.setMidiTempoValue(int(2e6*pi/omega/self.gain))
> def setVolume(self, d):
> vol=min(16384, int(d/(.7*self.width)*32768))
> for p in self.seq.oports:
> self.ev.setMasterVolume(vol)
> self.seq.q.postEvent(self.ev, p, 0)
> def start(self):
> if not self.callhandle is None:
> self.after_cancel(self.callhandle)
> self.callhandle=None
> self.seq.q.stop()
> self.seq.panic()
> self.t=None
> self.phi=0
> self.paused=0
> self.tempo=SimpleKalman(1, 1e-5, .03) # the smaller the last value,
> # the more responsive the behavior (beware of wobble)
> self.volume=SimpleKalman(1, 1e-5, .01)
> def startQueue(self):
> self.seq.play()
> def angle(self, x, y):
> return atan2(y-self.yc, x-self.xc)
> def distance(self, x, y):
> return sqrt((y-self.yc)**2+(x-self.xc)**2)
> def angleDiff(self, x0, y0, x1, y1):
> phi0, phi1=self.angle(x0, y0), self.angle(x1, y1)
> return min(abs(phi1-phi0), abs(phi1-phi0+2*pi), abs(phi1-phi0-2*pi))
> def handleMotion(self, e):
> if not self.callhandle is None:
> self.after_cancel(self.callhandle)
> t=time.time()
> if self.t is None:
> self.t=t
> self.x, self.y=e.x, e.y
> return
> dphi=self.angleDiff(e.x, e.y, self.x, self.y)
> if self.phi<self.phi0 and self.phi+dphi>self.phi0:
> self.startQueue()
> dt=t-self.t
> self.setTempoMTV(self.tempo.next(dphi/dt))
> self.setVolume(self.volume.next(self.distance(e.x, e.y)))
> if self.paused:
> self.paused=0
> self.seq.q.cont()
> self.x, self.y=e.x, e.y
> self.t=t
> self.phi+=dphi
> self.after(1000, self.cv.delete,
> self.cv.create_oval(e.x-2, e.y-2, e.x+2, e.y+2, fill='red'))
> self.callhandle=self.after(250, self.pause)
> def pause(self):
> self.callhandle=None
> self.seq.q.stop()
> self.paused=1
>
>
> if __name__=='__main__':
> if len(sys.argv)<2:
> fn='trio_es_2_nagorni.mid'
> else:
> fn=sys.argv[1]
> print 'hook up midi ports, draw circles'
> tune=MidiToAlsa(fn)
> BoaConductor(tune, Tk()).mainloop()
>
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