On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 14:35 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: > > some people point out that audacity/rezound/sweep/snd are way more > advanced than anything we could do in any reasonable time. in fact, as > you point out: > > > [...] Audacity which, though very limited in many of the features > > that make Ardour so powerful, is a very powerful and intuitive sound > > file editor for many of the basic editing jobs you end up doing after > > the musicians have gone home and you are stuck with what you recorded. > > and if you tried snd, your mind might melt down as you began to > understand what it could do :) I'll do it. Thanks for the pointer. > > > For instance, you need to amplify a small section of a track (more than > > the 12 dB you can get with Ardour's envelope and mixer gains). Or you > > you might want to check out the contex menu for regions and its > "normalize" option. > Yes, that probably solves the amplify need. > > First of all, (please correct me if I'm wrong) Ardour says it is trying > > to be a Pro-Tools type application but I can't imagine that Pro-Tools > > doesn't have built-in sound file editing. > > it does, but compared to soundforge or bias peak or even cooledit, it > sucks eggs. and since we're not here to try to make lots of money and > lock you into our tools, it doesn't make much sense to to compete with > existing editors. That is very educational for me. (Isn't almost everything? 8^) ) > > the preferred solution is to see ardour be able to fork off your > preferred editor to work on a given region. this will be implemented > post-2.0. Yes, I did read about that in one of the feature requests in Mantis. I agree with your logic as long as the various tools can be made to work well together. > > for now, to do something vaguely equivalent, context-click on a region > and select "export". edit the resulting file, reimport it into ardour. > not very convenient as far as workflow, hence our other plans. That's what I've been doing but it's a pain since Jack grabs my sound card and so Audacity can't use it unless I stop Jack. Maybe there is some way for Jack and Non-JACK-aware apps to share a sound card. I'm quite un-knowledgeable in that area. Also, when exporting, editing, importing like that should I use a larger number sample format (24 bit or 32 bit) to avoid losing information? Thanks again all who replied. Mike Mike Jewell One-Up Audio