Hi Shayne, Line outs from amps usually give a very thin crappy signal. You'll do much better miking the amp. Andres Shayne O'Connor wrote: > tim hall wrote: > > >>Last Sunday 13 February 2005 22:12, Shayne O'Connor was like: >> >> >> >>>tim hall wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Last Sunday 13 February 2005 10:24, Shayne O'Connor was like: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>(i should say that, to me, this song has more than a bit of a tribute to >>>>>the musical forms of Pavement ... and correct tuning in this context has >>>>>no more relevance than good singing ... ) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>OK, there's no such things as 'correct' granted. However, in my musical >>>>opinion, this song would sound better 'in tune'. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>i've been listening back to the song, and there is definitely something >>>ajar with the tuning ... tuning has never been my strong point - after >>>twelve years of playing guitar, i've only just started tuning the guitar >>>to the proper pitch. sure, whenever i'd play with keyboards or >>>something, i'd tune it to that ... otherwise, i'd just tune it to the >>>low e-string. ha ha, that'll make some of you cringe :) it's really >>>gotta stop ... i think i'm just so used to out-of-tuneness from this >>>sloppy behaviour, as well as most of the music i listen to comes from a >>>bit of a DIY philosophy ... no excuse for laziness, though. >>> >>> >> >>Well, we've had some interesting discussions on here lately about tuning >>guitars, check the archives. I've certainly learned how to improve my tuning, >>I've been one of the worst offenders for being slightly out of tune all the >>time. >> > > > i think i noticed them, but instinctively filed them under "boring" ... > such is the way my mind works. > > >>I'm beginning to understand that the western 12 tone system is innately >>out of tune with the natural harmonics, so if you tune to harmonics, you'll >>always be out of tune. The best advice was to tune every other string to the >>A string or a harmonic of the A string. That works a treat! >> >> >> > > > i tune to harmonics, so i better look into this! > > >>>>Dodgy guitar sounds require >>>>much greater production skills to sound right (c.f. World Domination >>>>Enterprises 'Asbestos Lead Asbestos' or indeed their version of 'Funky >>>>Town'). >>>> >>>> >>> >>>funny you should mention, because i've been listening to rough trade >>>shops no wave compilation, and "asbestos lead asbestos" is on there ... >>>also on there, and highly deserving of cross-referencing, is "the >>>raincoats" version of "lola" ... it's just so sleazy and scummy in every >>>way ... and the tuning, oh my god it's awful ... the most brilliant >>>cover i've heard in a while :) >>> >>> >> >>Heh ;-) >> >> >> >> >>>>Recording the guitar through a miked up valve amp would help. 7th >>>>chords on the guitar tend to produce uncomfortable and distracting >>>>harmonics if they're not tuned right, you'll notice many guitarists use >>>>open power chords for this reason. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>i'll try this out - but i think my amp (marshall valvestate) only offers >>>a solid-state emulation of a valve ... i haven't had much experienc >>>miking stuff up, so it should be a good learning experience too :) >>> >>> >> >>I thought the valvestate was a valve pre-amp with a tranny power-amp. >> > > > you're probly right - it does sound really nice, and it takes a little > while to warm up which would be a dumb thing to emulate ... > > >>It's >>rather good for recording with IIRC because you can get decent distortion >>without having to crank it right up. >> >> >> > > > it was given to me by my mum's boyfriend, and it has a line-out plug ... > which i though would be perfect for getting that nice distortion into my > computer ... but i haven't been able to get a squeak out of that > line-out from my amp :( > > shayne > > >
