tim hall wrote: >Last Sunday 13 February 2005 22:12, Shayne O'Connor was like: > > >>tim hall wrote: >> >> >>>Last Sunday 13 February 2005 10:24, Shayne O'Connor was like: >>> >>> >>>>(i should say that, to me, this song has more than a bit of a tribute to >>>>the musical forms of Pavement ... and correct tuning in this context has >>>>no more relevance than good singing ... ) >>>> >>>> >>>OK, there's no such things as 'correct' granted. However, in my musical >>>opinion, this song would sound better 'in tune'. >>> >>> >>i've been listening back to the song, and there is definitely something >>ajar with the tuning ... tuning has never been my strong point - after >>twelve years of playing guitar, i've only just started tuning the guitar >>to the proper pitch. sure, whenever i'd play with keyboards or >>something, i'd tune it to that ... otherwise, i'd just tune it to the >>low e-string. ha ha, that'll make some of you cringe :) it's really >>gotta stop ... i think i'm just so used to out-of-tuneness from this >>sloppy behaviour, as well as most of the music i listen to comes from a >>bit of a DIY philosophy ... no excuse for laziness, though. >> >> > >Well, we've had some interesting discussions on here lately about tuning >guitars, check the archives. I've certainly learned how to improve my tuning, >I've been one of the worst offenders for being slightly out of tune all the >time. > i think i noticed them, but instinctively filed them under "boring" ... such is the way my mind works. >I'm beginning to understand that the western 12 tone system is innately >out of tune with the natural harmonics, so if you tune to harmonics, you'll >always be out of tune. The best advice was to tune every other string to the >A string or a harmonic of the A string. That works a treat! > > > i tune to harmonics, so i better look into this! >>>Dodgy guitar sounds require >>>much greater production skills to sound right (c.f. World Domination >>>Enterprises 'Asbestos Lead Asbestos' or indeed their version of 'Funky >>>Town'). >>> >>> >>funny you should mention, because i've been listening to rough trade >>shops no wave compilation, and "asbestos lead asbestos" is on there ... >>also on there, and highly deserving of cross-referencing, is "the >>raincoats" version of "lola" ... it's just so sleazy and scummy in every >>way ... and the tuning, oh my god it's awful ... the most brilliant >>cover i've heard in a while :) >> >> > >Heh ;-) > > > >>>Recording the guitar through a miked up valve amp would help. 7th >>>chords on the guitar tend to produce uncomfortable and distracting >>>harmonics if they're not tuned right, you'll notice many guitarists use >>>open power chords for this reason. >>> >>> >>i'll try this out - but i think my amp (marshall valvestate) only offers >>a solid-state emulation of a valve ... i haven't had much experienc >>miking stuff up, so it should be a good learning experience too :) >> >> > >I thought the valvestate was a valve pre-amp with a tranny power-amp. > you're probly right - it does sound really nice, and it takes a little while to warm up which would be a dumb thing to emulate ... >It's >rather good for recording with IIRC because you can get decent distortion >without having to crank it right up. > > > it was given to me by my mum's boyfriend, and it has a line-out plug ... which i though would be perfect for getting that nice distortion into my computer ... but i haven't been able to get a squeak out of that line-out from my amp :( shayne
