On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 09:01 -0600, Josh Lawrence wrote: > This discussion is very helpful to me, I was unaware that proprietary > drivers such as ATI's would cause such problems with a RT kernel. It > was a video card that I had leftover from my Windows days, and since I > don't have any $ to buy a new one, I'll just have to keep it for > awhile. > Well my point was that proprietary drivers are wrong, period, from both a technical and ethical standpoint - it was not specific to the RT kernel. It's not about whether they are buggy or not. When Linux users buy hardware that requires propriertary drivers you are impeding the progress of Linux and all free software. It would be understandable if there was no 3D hardware available with open drivers but that's not the case. Really this is all a depressing reminder that as far as Linux has come over the years people are STILL buying hardware to run Windows on it. They would rather have a 5% better framerate in some game than support free software. Is the highest purpose of Linux really just to run proprietary games and VST plugins using Wine? If so then I'm wasting my time. Lee