On Friday 19 August 2005 12:26, Shayne O'Connor wrote: > > That's an assumption on your part which I don't share. You have to > > consciously accept a contract (i.e. sign it or =) in order for it to be > > binding under British law (ANAL). I think you have to at least shake > > hands in order for it even to be considered a 'gentleman's agreement'. > > which brings me back to my (and probably your) point - what *are* we > allowed to do with it? by allowing us to download the song ie - copy it > - you have granted us some sort of rights, haven't you? how far do these > rights go (i'm talking only in the context of what a CC license allows)? No, I don't believe any rights are granted if there is no license. > >>- if we > >>*weren't*, then we'd potentially be exposing everyone on the list to > >>breaking the law. > > > > Really?!? I will be very careful about what I post on this list if that > > _is_ the case. It would be good to clarify this. > > > > I think I'm slightly at odds with the consensus here. I am primarily a > > writer of music, before even being a performer or player. I am still > > quite new to using computers for this task. While I think Free Licensing > > for creative works is a good idea, I'm not entirely convinced by the > > ramifications. My chief worry is that while I would be flattered if any > > of my music was used to promote something I believe in, I would be mighty > > pissed off if it got used to advertise some ecologically damaging product > > or xenophobic attitude. > > this has got nothing to do with creative commons licensing. That so doesn't answer my reservations. > > The problem with advertising and music is that it's much more emotional > > than software. If someone with radically different politics uses that > > software very publicly, it doesn't imply any kind of endorsement of the > > final product on the part of the software developer. Music or a public > > appearance does create the impression of endorsement. As an audience's > > support is somewhat style dependent, this can be critical. Ozric > > Tentacles lost a lot of fans over the Ford commercial they did. > > selling your music to a product is sick, i hope most people would agree. > unless, i guess, you write jingles for a living. I'm not talking about selling my music to a product, it's not sick, it's business. If it were a product I believed in I would have no qualms about pursuing such a course of action. Any piece under a completely free license could be used by any company for a free jingle totally legally. There would be no way to stop this. Highly unlikely, I'll wager. But that's not the point. I shall keep asking this question until I get a satisfactory answer. -- cheers, tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
