On Thursday 18 August 2005 22:13, Shayne O'Connor wrote: > tim hall wrote: > > On Sunday 07 August 2005 10:02, David Collins wrote: > >>P.S. Maybe there's a specific policy already that I'm > >>not aware of? > > > > Until we make a decision not to accept non-CC submissions to the list you > > should assume that a piece is copyright the author and all rights > > reserved unless explicitly licensed otherwise. > > that is *always* assumed, whether a piece has been licensed or not. > copyright isn't really the issue here, is it? isn't it licensing ... ie > - how we are allowed to *use* the music, not who is creator or > intellectual "property" owner? Yes, the issue is licensing here. > i don't think by posting music to this list that anyone is giving up > their copyright, but they *are* sort of saying "here is a public link to > some music i made, anyone can download it Yes. > and distribute it". No. If I wanted my stuff distributed, I would license it appropriately. > we are > basically, through a sort of informal contract, issuing stuff under a > Creative Commons license every time we post our music here That's an assumption on your part which I don't share. You have to consciously accept a contract (i.e. sign it or =) in order for it to be binding under British law (ANAL). I think you have to at least shake hands in order for it even to be considered a 'gentleman's agreement'. > - if we > *weren't*, then we'd potentially be exposing everyone on the list to > breaking the law. Really?!? I will be very careful about what I post on this list if that _is_ the case. It would be good to clarify this. I think I'm slightly at odds with the consensus here. I am primarily a writer of music, before even being a performer or player. I am still quite new to using computers for this task. While I think Free Licensing for creative works is a good idea, I'm not entirely convinced by the ramifications. My chief worry is that while I would be flattered if any of my music was used to promote something I believe in, I would be mighty pissed off if it got used to advertise some ecologically damaging product or xenophobic attitude. The problem with advertising and music is that it's much more emotional than software. If someone with radically different politics uses that software very publicly, it doesn't imply any kind of endorsement of the final product on the part of the software developer. Music or a public appearance does create the impression of endorsement. As an audience's support is somewhat style dependent, this can be critical. Ozric Tentacles lost a lot of fans over the Ford commercial they did. I have already sailed a little too close to the wind on this issue myself, hence the concern. I know I stand to be corrected on this one, nevertheless, it's a worry. I guess the answer is that I can be an eco-fascist control freak if I want to, but that I shouldn't expect other people to support my point of view. ;) -- cheers, tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
