Shayne O'Connor offered the following on 08/19/2005 06:32 AM: > tim hall wrote: > >> On Thursday 18 August 2005 22:13, Shayne O'Connor wrote: >> >>> tim hall wrote: >>> >>>> On Sunday 07 August 2005 10:02, David Collins wrote: >>>> >>>>> P.S. Maybe there's a specific policy already that I'm >>>>> not aware of? >>>> >>>> >>>> Until we make a decision not to accept non-CC submissions to the >>>> list you >>>> should assume that a piece is copyright the author and all rights >>>> reserved unless explicitly licensed otherwise. >>> >>> >>> that is *always* assumed, whether a piece has been licensed or not. >>> copyright isn't really the issue here, is it? isn't it licensing ... ie >>> - how we are allowed to *use* the music, not who is creator or >>> intellectual "property" owner? >> >> >> >> Yes, the issue is licensing here. >> >> >>> i don't think by posting music to this list that anyone is giving up >>> their copyright, but they *are* sort of saying "here is a public link to >>> some music i made, anyone can download it >> >> >> >> Yes. >> >> >>> and distribute it". >> >> >> >> No. If I wanted my stuff distributed, I would license it appropriately. >> >> >>> we are basically, through a sort of informal contract, issuing stuff >>> under a >>> Creative Commons license every time we post our music here >> >> >> >> That's an assumption on your part which I don't share. You have to >> consciously accept a contract (i.e. sign it or =) in order for it to >> be binding under British law (ANAL). I think you have to at least >> shake hands in order for it even to be considered a 'gentleman's >> agreement'. >> >> >>> - if we *weren't*, then we'd potentially be exposing everyone on the >>> list to >>> breaking the law. >> >> >> >> Really?!? I will be very careful about what I post on this list if >> that _is_ the case. It would be good to clarify this. > > > well, i guess stuff like this: > > http://opensrc.org/index.php?page=RadIO > > has everyone on that list given explicit permission to be listed there? > doesn't this count as distribution? maybe it doesn't, but this is the > sort of thing i'm talking about. i don't know lots about copyright and > licensing, but a discussion of it is highly welcome. i mean, i highly > doubt anyone thinks RadIO is anything but useful to promoting their > music, but you never know ... > What a marvelous site! I can just imagine the day when musicians can add their URL, and, in addition to all the RadIO site provides, they also upload the musician's file to www.archive.org in some sort of pending section. Then, all the musician has to do, is go to that section, and complete the account info. Now, all recordings on RadIO can also be found in the repository. I keep thinking creativecommons.org should be collaborating with sites like RadIO and archive.org to provide artists with the help they need to get set up. Tom -- Open Studios, Charles City, Iowa, USA www.ibiblio.org/studioforrecording/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: tompoe.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 293 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://music.columbia.edu/pipermail/linux-audio-user/attachments/20050819/8fa8c914/tompoe.vcf