On Tuesday 30 November 2004 08:30, Marek Peteraj wrote: > Lots of people stop eating meat or send letters to food > producers insisting that they comply with vegetarian > principles. As a result, there are many food products having a > 'suitable for vegetarians' sticker on them.The fight over > revealing ingredients was aslo one such fight. Unfortunately, that's a poor analogy as manufacturers only list ingredients because they're required to do so by law. Much as it'd tickle me to see proprietary software made illegal, I think that would be a very bad idea. However, I do think that pro audio is a small enough market (compared to other computer hardware, or for that matter food ;) ) that keeping after the companies with POLITE letters explaining that you'd love to (use|continue to use) their products but you can't because they don't work with your OS will eventually cause one of them to release specs and/or a Linux driver. Whatever happened to Echo anyway? I still have the announcement from last year posted to this very list saying they'd shared their specs with the ALSA guys or something to that effect. A studio-owning friend of mine swears by their stuff and I'd recommend it to other people too if I knew there were decent drivers. Rob