Marek Peteraj wrote: > On Sun, 2004-11-28 at 20:44, Lee Revell wrote: > >>On Sun, 2004-11-28 at 13:51 +0100, Marek Peteraj wrote: >> >>>I really like the philosophy of not letting any closed source drivers >>>into the kernel. In the end i only saw people upset because their XY >>>nvidia or ATI driver wasn't working. >> >>That's a perfectly valid point. But for every disgruntled nvidia user >>there are 100 who are just happy to be able to play UT2004. > > Are you sure? I don't know but i've literally seen tons of complaints. > It scared me away and i just stick with my old g400. I have ATI Radeon 9800 binary driver and while it works (except of shame of being able to run only _one_ X server at a time) I am not particularly excited about it: - need to recompile external kernel module everytime I upgrade kernel - need to install ATI openGL libs which override openGL from debian package (mesa) in a nasty way (so I need to force install, which creates problem when I upgrade libxmesa packages which I need installed because openGl programs depend on them, I think this can be solved somehow but it requires fairly deep knowledge of what's going on, not something you can expect from general public). it was similar with nvidia (which I used to have before I got ATI). both of these are poorly integrated into distributions and are pain to use. Yes I am happy that I can watch openGl xscreensaver hacks (I mostly have ATI 9800 card because it can handle 1920x1200 on DVI) but compared to the rest of the distro they stick out like a sore thumb. erik