On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 00:58, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 02:25:09 +0100, Marek Peteraj <marpet@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sun, 2004-11-28 at 21:31, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > One nice example. Korg 1212 i/o, worked under win98, doesn't under winXP > > because korg does not provide support for it. There is an alsa driver > > for it now(and specs), so basically the life of that card is extended to > > eternity. > > > > There are more such damn good reasons for open source drivers. People > > just don't shout too loud. :) > > Fair enough. There are companies here in Silicon Valley that take over > 'end of life' chip designs and manufacturer them for a while to help > customers, but there isn't much money in it most of the time, just as > there is probably no financial reason for Korg to support that card. I > didn't like it when DigiDesign said they weren't going to continue to > support the 001 forever and I was forced into buying an 002 or going > away from Windows. Unortunately there was no other platform that > maintained my music investment as well so I stuck with Digi. > > That's the nature of technology. It gets outdated. Not too many > companies making buggy whips anymore either... > > >> However how did Marek end up being an RME customer when > > > there was (as far as I know) never any support for this device under > > > Linux, nor anyone even really saying there would be? > > > > Actually not quite, it seemed as if there would be support, Thomas > > wanted to do the driver. I just invested too much trust in RME. My > > fault. > > And I am very sorry about that. You don't have to be. > It is a disappointment I'm sure. > You're a long ways away. If it was more practical I'd probably buy the > unit from you. I have uses. I'm sure others will too. You'll sell it > and get good money. Chalk the loss up to learning and > remember..."Trust, but verify". Agreed. It was a lesson to learn. Thanks for your 'heads up' :) > > > > > > In my case I Was > > > told that supporting the HDSP 9652 would be a non-issue based on the > > > DigiFace working. It turned out to be true, but then again it took > > > about a year to become really useful to me, and even today doesn't > > > work as well as it does under Windows. How did he end up with this > > > device and in this position? > > > > > > I somehow don't think this is RME's fault... > > > > If RME did the drivers for your HDSP 9652 then you could directly > > contact them and ask them for support. I'm sure Thomas would help you > > aswell if he had the card, and that's the problem. In such case claiming > > that they do support alsa is just plain unfair. > > ???? RME never 'supported' the card under Linux. The 'supported' the > developers by providing technical info. I did not purchase the card > because of RME telling me it would be OK to use the card under Linux. > They never stated such things. Unfortunately they did. To quote a part of their response: "> [linux-audio-dev] RME is no more Complete BS. We have and will support Linux/Alsa as before. The only excluded product is the Fireface." Marek