Last Sunday 28 November 2004 20:31, Mark Knecht was like: > My experience using both is no that different, but > for me it's not political. > > Am I wrong when I think this desire is particularly European in > nature? I'm so Open Market driven, especially when it comes to > technology, that I hardly seem to understand this oter POV. However, I > am interested. [-;{ European politics also include socialist points of view. European alternatives seem more edgy, punky and rebellious compared to the relatively hedonic view we get of American culture from this side of the pond. Windows, like Coca-Cola and MacDonalds, is also seen as a byproduct of American Imperialism by some. I remember a young lad from New York coming to visit and being slightly offended and rather perplexed when we suggested that he shouldn't drink Coca-Cola. He was like: "What, you guys only drink Pepsi?".[*] I rest my case. };-] tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk [*] Note for perplexed Americans: Being English, we only drink warm beer, which we brew ourselves, or scalding hot tea, freshly stolen from the Indian sub-continent, with a dash of milk. Of course.