--- David Stephens <linuxrootuser@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > For anyone keeping score... > > 1 RME PCI Card > 1 RME Multiface > 1 RME HDSP9625 1 RME Digi9652 1 M-Audio 2496 i think that's what it is 2 M-Audio 1010lt i think that's what they are 1 midiman USB 8x8 i guess that counts ron > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 01:51:16 +0100, Marek Peteraj > <marpet@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 23:17, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:34:17 +0100, Marek > Peteraj <marpet@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > <SNIP> > > > > 2. I can only understand the point of view of > open source developers > > > > here, since they also invested an awfull lot > of time (and money that > > > > they didn't get back!) into developing linux > audio applications, many of > > > > which are state-of-art at least with respect > to technology. And they're > > > > free as in beer/speech. > > > > > > That was their choice. Right? > > > > Sure but the result is the _same_ with respect to > what they > > deliver(state of art technology), which has the > same value for me. Not > > the same with respect to what you get in the > end.(a non-functioning > > device you paid a lot for, just because this and > that) > > > > > > > > > That said i really don't understand the point > of view of those few how > > > > actually kindof defend the position of RME (or > any other manufacturer in > > > > a similar position), no offense intended. > > > > > > RME's position, and I am only guessing here, is > that they would be > > > happy to release info to the Open Source > community __IF__ that > > > information didn't help their competitors > develop hardware that > > > competed with RME. > > > > How? To achieve 1ms less latency? > > > > > > > It is natural for people who have spent money > to > > > want to protect it's value. We are that way with > our own purchases, > > > correct? I (and I think you...) would not be > happy if I bought > > > something and then it stopped working, > > > > Worse. It actually never worked in my case. > > > > > or if the company you bought it > > > from stopped supporting it. > > > > Worse. They never did in my case. > > > > > RME is the same way. They invest hundreds > > > of thousands, if not millions of Euro's > developing new hardware ideas. > > > > Hence the analogy with oss developers. They do > that too without being > > cowards and misers. > > > > > They create software to support it and make it > work. Then all the > > > technical information goes into the public > domain and some low cost > > > manufacturer from Taiwan or Russia or somewhere > else knocks off a copy > > > and sells it for 1/2 the price. No one buys RME > hardware, RME doesn't > > > make money and goes out of business. > > > > Did this happen? > > See how many RME cards are supported. Almost all. > Perhaps all except > > fireface. Did someone from russia or taiwan > knock-off a copy? Does RME > > suffer from us having alsa drivers? Are russian > engineers or taiwanese > > engineers(envy24 btw AFAIK) not smart enough to > come up with their own > > superb design? Is it too hard for smart people to > reverse-engineer? > > In other words - what are you talking about? > > > > > > > > What's so hard to understand? > > > > Pretty much everything. Considering that they have > used proprietary > > protocols in their hammerfall series anyway. > > > > > > Which seems like it's the beginning of end for > linux pro-audio hw > > > > support if we don't fight for it. Right now it > concerns just me, but it > > > > might concern everyone in the near future. > > > > > > This I agree with, but the best way to fight for > it (speaking as a > > > business man) is to develop a real market for > it. We need thousands of > > > buyers. Develop the market and hardware > manufacturers will come. > > > > Perhaps it's here already. I think there's more of > us RME or M-Audio > > customers than one might think. > > > > Marek > > > > > > > -- > "When you get to the end of all the light you know > and it's time to > step into the darkness of the unknown, faith is > knowing that one of > two things shall happen: either you will be given > something solid to > stand on, or you will be taught how to fly." --Dr. > Edward Teller > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com
