On Tue, 2004-06-29 at 15:35, Jos Laake wrote: > I'm gonna restart this thread, because I'm pretty sure there's a real > answer lurking out there. :-) > > To reiterate: > > I realize that the idea of using two soundcards for multitrack > recording is fraught with sync problems. To be really clear, > I just don't care. I'm capturing snippets of this and that, > samples, room moises, etc. If there's a bit of drift, so what? > What I'm really after is track separation of different audio sources. > I understand the problems. I don't think they will seriously apply > to the somewhat non-standard usage I have in mind here. > > Russell Hanaghan wrote: > > > >>I have asked, just as you too are asking for a "dream come true!" Cheapo > >>cards for multiple IO's... > >> > >>But alas...this is not to be! You can get both cards working in tandem > >>(of sorts) with the right ".asoundrc" file > > Okay, this is what I need! Can somebody (Russell?) please post the > .asoundrc that makes this actually work? I've tried various bits for > ".asoundrc" that I've found here and there online and I can't get > 'qjackctl' to see the device, nor can I get 'jackd' to start manually > with the composite device. Hmmm...I have approx. 2.314 brain cells left and they don't communicate with each other anymore! :) From recollection, I thought I just used the "multi" option in Qjackctl and set jack for 4 in's and 4 outs. > > > >> but they will not stay in > >>sync. I had 2 identical SBlive 5.1's and prayed constantly and fervently > >>to the great God of ALSA whom betrothed to us the .asoundrc miracle. For > >>40 days and 40 nights I fasted...but the "fuzzy wuzzies" in one or the > >>other card were NOT to be cast out. I was angry...then repentent. > > Again, I'm not concerned with sync. I'm interested in *routing*. I wasn't all that concerned with sync either...I was using it as a live RT fx processing system. I did have a problem with the distortion produced by the sync issue. > > Frank Barknecht wrote: > > > > Well, that's because you cannot beat physics with software. If those > > cards don't know the notion of "time" the other has then how should > > they stay in sync? This is neither a problem of ALSA nor Jack, it's > > simply a hardware issue. It's a bit like two people trying to play the > > same saxophone at the same time: it won't fly. > > I'd say it's more like to sax players playing with seemingly synced > (but not) metronomes in their headphones. Yeah, they'll drift from > each other over time. But did I get the "phat horn stab"? Oh, yeah! > > > You should get a real multichannel card or two cards that provide a > > way to be synced to each other like the M-Audio Delta cards should do > > (never tried) or the RME cards. Multichannel cards based on the IC1721 > > chips are really inexpensive nowadays. > > This is in the works. I've narrowed it down to the M-Audio Delta 1010 > or 1010LT. But that doesn't change *this* need. I'd still like to be > able to route my final mix (or my alsaplayer) either back through my > main (external) setup or just out throught the built-in soundcard to > the cheapo PC speakers. For that I'd still need JACK to see both cards. > > Hope to hear some good ideas... > > Peace, > ~Jos~
