I'm gonna restart this thread, because I'm pretty sure there's a real answer lurking out there. :-) To reiterate: I realize that the idea of using two soundcards for multitrack recording is fraught with sync problems. To be really clear, I just don't care. I'm capturing snippets of this and that, samples, room moises, etc. If there's a bit of drift, so what? What I'm really after is track separation of different audio sources. I understand the problems. I don't think they will seriously apply to the somewhat non-standard usage I have in mind here. Russell Hanaghan wrote: > >>I have asked, just as you too are asking for a "dream come true!" Cheapo >>cards for multiple IO's... >> >>But alas...this is not to be! You can get both cards working in tandem >>(of sorts) with the right ".asoundrc" file Okay, this is what I need! Can somebody (Russell?) please post the .asoundrc that makes this actually work? I've tried various bits for ".asoundrc" that I've found here and there online and I can't get 'qjackctl' to see the device, nor can I get 'jackd' to start manually with the composite device. >> but they will not stay in >>sync. I had 2 identical SBlive 5.1's and prayed constantly and fervently >>to the great God of ALSA whom betrothed to us the .asoundrc miracle. For >>40 days and 40 nights I fasted...but the "fuzzy wuzzies" in one or the >>other card were NOT to be cast out. I was angry...then repentent. Again, I'm not concerned with sync. I'm interested in *routing*. Frank Barknecht wrote: > > Well, that's because you cannot beat physics with software. If those > cards don't know the notion of "time" the other has then how should > they stay in sync? This is neither a problem of ALSA nor Jack, it's > simply a hardware issue. It's a bit like two people trying to play the > same saxophone at the same time: it won't fly. I'd say it's more like to sax players playing with seemingly synced (but not) metronomes in their headphones. Yeah, they'll drift from each other over time. But did I get the "phat horn stab"? Oh, yeah! > You should get a real multichannel card or two cards that provide a > way to be synced to each other like the M-Audio Delta cards should do > (never tried) or the RME cards. Multichannel cards based on the IC1721 > chips are really inexpensive nowadays. This is in the works. I've narrowed it down to the M-Audio Delta 1010 or 1010LT. But that doesn't change *this* need. I'd still like to be able to route my final mix (or my alsaplayer) either back through my main (external) setup or just out throught the built-in soundcard to the cheapo PC speakers. For that I'd still need JACK to see both cards. Hope to hear some good ideas... Peace, ~Jos~