Last Thursday 24 June 2004 22:52, RickTaylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx was like: > You can use alien to convert it to a .deb and then either install it > {provided you have the required bits and pieces} or open it up and install > the files manually. I hadn't thought of that! Gut feeling says it will be quicker and more educational for me to do the compile thing. If/when I get errors, I will also get some generally comprehensible output that I can attach to my questions. I guess it's got to be worth a try though. Thanks for the suggestions. I shall mull for a bit. cheers tim hall