On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 19:43, Erik Steffl wrote: > Florin Andrei wrote: > ... > > If you want really good phones but your budget is really tight, > > Sennheiser HD580 at $200 are the best for the price. They use the same > > mobile parts as the HD600, it's just the assemblage and casing that's > > less good. In a noisy environment (at a music gear store) i couldn't > > tell the difference between them and HD600. > > couldn't find HD580 anywhere http://www.headphone.com/layout.php?topicID=3&subTopicID=26&productID=0020080580 But yeah, it looks like Sennheiser is not making them anymore. That must have happened recently. > I was under impression they were > replaced by slightly cheaper HD570 and same/price or slightly more > expensive HD590 But aren't 570 discontinued too? > I tested both HD570 ($130) and HD590 ($200?) and I liked HD570 more, > slightly cleaner sound, then again I tested them with mp3 player > (PJB-100) so take it with grain of salt:-) Interesting. Me too, I was unimpressed by the 590. They felt bland when compared to the 600. I'm itching to try out the 595 which some say it's Sennheiser's answer to the critiques that it typically has a "too laid-back sound" (i think they're confusing transparency with being laid-back, but maybe that's just me). -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/