Florin Andrei wrote: ... > If you want really good phones but your budget is really tight, > Sennheiser HD580 at $200 are the best for the price. They use the same > mobile parts as the HD600, it's just the assemblage and casing that's > less good. In a noisy environment (at a music gear store) i couldn't > tell the difference between them and HD600. couldn't find HD580 anywhere, I was under impression they were replaced by slightly cheaper HD570 and same/price or slightly more expensive HD590 I tested both HD570 ($130) and HD590 ($200?) and I liked HD570 more, slightly cleaner sound, then again I tested them with mp3 player (PJB-100) so take it with grain of salt:-) I like them a lot but use them with mp3 player (iPod), computer (sb live platinum) and line6 guitar pod mostly, nothing high end. erik