On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 11:26:34AM -0600, Peter Groves wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 linux-audio-user-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > | From: Dave Phillips <dlphilp@xxxxxxxxxx> > | Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Should I Bother Learning Csound? > > | Considering the low cost of each of these systems, why not try them > | all ? You might also want to consider Common Lisp Music, a Lisp-based > | system. Btw, both CLM and SC3 are very much object-oriented languages, > | while Csound and RTcmix are modeled after more procedural languages. > > Well, that would be ideal, but I'm trying to get the most power for the > smallest amount of time spent learning it. Given all the comments, I > think I will give Csound a shot. I use java at work, so I'm used to > using a crappy language just because it has good libraries ok. but realize going in that csound is really severely crippled as a high-level programming language. You can't make functions, subroutines, or anything of that ilk. There are no for or while loops. The *only* kind of conditional branching requires a "goto" target. There are macros, but they are horrible. In other words, you can't really do structured programming at all. You end up doing tons of copy/paste and spaghetti. Except for all that, csound is great ;-) > When writing > similar code over and over, I have resorted to writing my own > template/preprocessor before. If I really end up liking what csound can > do, but hate the language constructs, I might go down that road. I think > I might have seen something like that done already Python, but I can't > recall where right now. pythonsound.sf.net. Be aware that its author abandoned it in favor of CLM, and I'm the only other developer and I haven't touched it in at least a year. Maurizio, the pythonsound/omde/pymask creator, told me (paraphrasing) "I spent months of my spare time trying to invent a python library that would enable me to compose. I learned enough Lisp to compose in two days." -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com Look! Up in the sky! It's SNAIL-DOG CREAM! (random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)
