On Thu, 2004-12-30 at 20:08, Russell Hanaghan wrote: > Russell Hanaghan wrote: > > Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > >>> I use Mandrake and Thac's but it is a bit of a pain at the moment > >>> with the 2.6 kernel stuff and the latest distro is not likely to > >>> work at all with the 2.4 kernel. > >>> > >>> I've been tempted many times to try CCRMA but untill someone can > >>> spout a reliable RT kernel in packaged form with all the most recent > >>> updates, whatever the distro may be, I don't want to try anything new. > >> > >> [I don't understand the 'I don't want to try anything new' part... :-] > >> > > :) Kind of a contradiction considering where I'm writing to... Yup... > > What I mean is, I need that production box to work. So before I go > > mess it all up, I want something stable ~ ish. At least as stable as > > the mdk 2.6.7-mm.7 kernel has been. I see. I would stick with 2.4.x if stability is the main concern. The other option is to try a new 2.6.x in your hardware to see if it is stable, impossible to predict beforehand. Easier if you have an extra disk so you don't mess your current stable configuration. > >> Ha, a "reliable RT kernel" does not really exist at this point in time > >> (IMHO). The best low latency performance in the 2.6.x series can only be > >> obtained by using Ingo Molnar's realtime preempt patch. The latest > >> version (and maybe also the underlying 2.6.10-rc3-mm1 as well) is not a > >> model of stability... But when it works, it works very well indeed. > >> > > ""reliable RT kernel" does not really exist at this point in time(IMHO)" > > > > It would seem this is true. But the 2.4 kernel was stable and > > reliable. I'm sure 2.6 will get there too, even if it is 20 releases > > away. Oh yes, and it is (I think) much closer than that. > >> Check out the top entries at the Planet CCRMA log: > >> http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/changelog.html > >> There are now a couple of new kernels there, both bleeding edge (with > >> the realtime preempt patch version 0.7.33-04) and conservative (vanilla > >> 2.6.10). > >> > > Do these have the Realtime-lsm patch too? I don't want to run as root. > > Give's me the willies! :) > > Never mind...read the website. > > WHat i dont see is how far into the FC3 builds you are? I see one failed > build that you list...I wouldnt mind testing it out. Comparing with fc2: # bin/todofrom2 === finding all existing packages for fedora 2 273 /build/status/fedora-2 === finding all existing packages for fedora 3 144 /build/status/fedora-3 === missing packages: 114 /build/status/missing So, still way to go... difficult to predict, some packages are easy and suddenly you get some hard to solve problem. I have more "do not build" packages, I just started listing them on the site. Beware that I'm in the process of writing new install instructions for fc2/fc3, it is much easier than the old install guide (when everything works right, of course). Look at the recent changelog and mailing list for more guidance. -- Fernando
