Rui Nuno Capela wrote: >Jack O'Quin wrote: > > >>Here are my results running vanilla 2.6.10. They support your >>conclusion, but also the idea that the vanilla kernel is really quite >>usable. >> >>Not sure what system statistics we should collect for this. My system >>is Debian woody with 2.6.10 and realtime-lsm on an Athlon 1800+ XP >>with 256MB main memory and M-Audio Delta-66 sound card. >> >> >> > >Something worth telling, in deed: my laptop's Mandrake 10.1 > A question here about Mdk 10.1 {a tad OT}... I'm under the impression that there are issues preventing the use of newer 2.6 kernels with 10.1 because they break stuff. It seems not as you are using this kernel. I don't have the time or really the skillset to build kernels efficiently and I rely heavily on Thac's RPM's for my production box. But I'm faced with a bit of a mild dilemna; Thac is not supporting the 10.0 RPMs and there have been many upgrades. But I cannot seem to get the 2.6.7 mm.7 kernels to boot on my test box running 10.1 official. And If I cant have a RT kernel to use, my production box is gathering cobwebs. I don't need zero Xruns at 32x2. I just need reliable RT performance with modest latency...I mean damn...I can go mess with my Winblows machine to remember what latency blessings we have in Linux audio! :) And I can always just hide the Qjackctl window; I'm convinced that sometimes just seeing the "Xrun monitor" numbers turn red causes some folks to tip the box over and start again with a fresh reinstall! If I'm prepared to wear my sox 2 days in a row then I can live with some red numbers. :) Dropouts are unacceptable not Xruns. R~ >and all my >tests were taken while on a perfectly usual X desktop session (KDE 3.2), >bringing more merit to the RT patch performance. Another note goes to my >custom jackit-0.99.41.10cvs installation: it includes an additional >max_delayed_usecs-histogram patch (also derived from the Lee's original). >Without this modification the result lines that read "Delay Count (>1000 >usecs)" are pretty a no-op. Just ignore those, anyway. > >Oh, and another important thingie: being it a laptop, it has ACPI support >set on by default. If ACPI is switched off, I'll surely read fewer XRUNs >under vanilla 2.6.10, quite as fewer as yours, but then I will miss some >system monitor goodies (e.g battery status, temperature, etc.). >Incidentally, Ingo has also solved this ACPI latency issue, and that just >makes yet another chalkmark for the RT patch ;) > > > > >>I imagine that long 10 msec xrun delay probably occurred during the >>graph sort after one of the clients disconnected. If so, that's more >>of a JACK implementation artifact than a kernel or system problem. >> >>************* SUMMARY RESULT **************** >>Total seconds ran . . . . . . : 300 >>Number of clients . . . . . . : 20 >>Ports per client . . . . . . : 4 >>Frames per buffer . . . . . . : 64 >>********************************************* >>Timeout Count . . . . . . . . :( 1) >>XRUN Count . . . . . . . . . : 2 >>Delay Count (>spare time) . . : 0 >>Delay Count (>1000 usecs) . . : 0 >>Delay Maximum . . . . . . . . : 10258 usecs >>Cycle Maximum . . . . . . . . : 825 usecs >>Average DSP Load. . . . . . . : 32.4 % >>Average CPU System Load . . . : 7.3 % >>Average CPU User Load . . . . : 24.1 % >>Average CPU Nice Load . . . . : 0.0 % >>Average CPU I/O Wait Load . . : 1.4 % >>Average CPU IRQ Load . . . . : 0.7 % >>Average CPU Soft-IRQ Load . . : 0.0 % >>Average Interrupt Rate . . . : 1689.4 /sec >>Average Context-Switch Rate . : 11771.0 /sec >>********************************************* >> >> >> > >Hmmm... Now I notice that there was at least one Timeout occurrence. Check >the output log/chart. In my own experience, when this happens the results >are pretty skewed right after that timeout moment. Something about clients >being kicked out from the chain, maybe? Anyway, I believe the only trusty >results are the ones with 0 (zero) timeouts. > > > > >>Very nice test, BTW. >> >>I had to hack it a bit to work on my system (mainly due to an old GCC >>2.95.4 compiler). I would love to include some version of this as a >>`make test' option with the JACK distribution. >> >> > >Glad you find it useful. Feel free to it. But take a note that the >included jack_test_nmeter.c is a minor change from nmeter.c, handed to me >by Denis Vlasenko on the LKML. > >Bye now, and thanks. > >