jonetsu <jonetsu@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Fri, 01 Jun 2018 17:32:35 +0200 > David Kastrup <dak@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> In order to keep it to that, what is "Linux-made"? Is it > >> "At (all?) relevant stages of composing, creating, recording, editing >> and producing where a general-purpose operating system was utilized >> to a significant degree, it was running on a Linux kernel"? That >> would include Android: should this be more confined by "and a GNU >> userland"? >> >> A dependable definition would go a far way towards keeping the thread >> constrained to Linux-made music. > > Made (created) in such a way that Linux is the operating system used > for all the software components involved in the process to run. Considering how hard the task of finding a computer without "proprietary blobs" is even for people like Stallman even when looking only at rewritable storage, that would likely rule out almost all productions. Things like disk controllers and USB hubs and keyboard controllers all run their little software components and operating systems. There is a reason I put "general-purpose operating system" in my specification. > Then, people might ask, why make it a point ? People are not saying > "made with Windows" after all. It is then that what makes Linux > different comes through and it is why the point is made. One of those > differences is that Linux is an Open and free operating system with no > hidden software parts basically. It is not a proprietary OS owned by > a company. That point only makes a large difference as a statement, > as a choice, perhaps even as a political statement. So if I use, say, a Solton MS-40 (a device released in 1994 or so, so not actually predating Linux as such but at least its usefulness for such a device) for my arranger or even Midi expander tasks but use Linux for my DAW purposes, the music is not Linux-made. Even when I don't use the arranger but just the Midi expander? Using an acoustic accordion allows me to stay "Linux-made" while connecting the same accordion with a Midi interface (that has its own firmware in EPROM, no less) to my Linux computer then precludes "Linux-made"? And if I only use acoustic instruments but record using a DAW on Linux, the result is "Linux-made" as long as I don't use a soundcard with its own firmware? > That synths being used, DAWs, etc.. are full-fledged commercial > products does not matter. What happened to "Linux is the operating system used for all the software components involved in the process to run."? I may just not understand what "involved in the process to run" means here. > By choosing Linux a (creative) statement is made. So far I have no clear picture of what "choosing Linux" means _outside_ of just making this as a (creative) statement. -- David Kastrup _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user