Re: Diagnosing JACK

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On 10/12/2015 02:33 AM, Jan Depner wrote:


On 10/12/2015 06:37 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 13:02:03 +0200, Florian Paul Schmidt wrote:
There's still some rough spots, true, but complaining here about it
won't fix anything. There's PA mailing lists and IRC channels.
Then hopefully those who have issues with pulseaudio use this
communication channels. I'm not against pulseaudio, I don't
experience issues with pulseaudio. I'm also not against software for
stitching or CNC technology. Many people simply don't need pulseaudio,
stitching and CNC technology software. So, if somebody shouldn't need
pulseaudio, but pulseaudio should cause trouble, why is it installed?
The main argument to have pulseaudio installed usually is, that it
reportedly is installed by default and that removing it reportedly is
impossible without breaking the install. I only mentioned that removing
pulseaudio, assumed it isn't needed, might be a way to solve the OP'S
issue with pulseaudio.

Assumed somebody should report issues with jackd, because stitching and
CNC technology software breaks the work-flow and it would be an option
to remove this software, because it isn't needed, then why commenting
out lines in configs or suspend/kill this software, when removing is
the most simple solution?

There seems not to be a religion con pulseaudio, there seems to be a
religion pro pulseaudio, even if it's completely useless for many users.

Other and I explained that removing pulseaudio often is easy to do.
Btw. Those who want to use pulseaudio and those who run into issues
regarding hard dependencies, if they don't want to use it, should
report those issues upstream.

Those of us who don't need it, don't use it, don't have it installed
and who btw. do not complain, can't report issues to upstream, a mailing
list or IRC.

My intention wasn't a pulseaudio debate, I simply recommended to remove
pulseaudio, assumed the OP shouldn't need it. What's wrong with this
advice?

Regards,
Ralf

I've had problems using JACK and pulseaudio with my ICE1712 device.
Instead of trying to remove pulseaudio, I used the simple solution:

sudo chmod 644 /usr/bin/pulseaudio

That way it won't start.  I have 5 other Linux systems that have simple,
on-board audio and pulse works great for those but, with the ST Audio
DSP2000 C-Port, it would give me problems starting JACK. It wasn't worth
the effort of trying to figure out how to get the two to work together
nicely.  I also don't have any problems with audio on this system when
I'm not running JACK.

On my desktop machine with an ICE1712 device, JACK and Pulse, things work. Except that Audacious refuses to play a media file if that file is a different bitrate than JACK's default 48K.

Same version of Audacious works fine on my laptop - which doesn't have Pulse installed at all.

Just one of the great mysteries of life.

Another great mystery: systemd works great on the desktop, crashes ingloriously on the laptop.

Puters is as puters is!

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