-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 10.10.2015 01:39, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Less is more, Linux allows to follow the KISS principle. Two sound > servers and managing that they don't conflict with each other is > bad engineering. Even if somebody should need PA and jackd in > parallel, then it's just a work-around, however, most users likely > need only one sound server and their computer usage would be much > easier with having only PA or only jackd installed instead of > both. Hey, I just want to chime in with my opinion: The combination of jack2 and pulseaudio is friggin awesome. It's the best thing since sliced bread. Pulseaudio giving me the quite well working ALSA emulation device which works with all ALSA applications I need. It gives me sweet things like being able to control per application volume, pretty good (good enough and way better than the pure ALSA experience ever was - and yes, I have fiddled for ages with ALSA PCM plugins) software mixing, etc.. It's true that PA used to suck hard, but it has become sooo much better. I just start both at session start. PA and jack2 and have the pa-jack-sink and source installed. Best of both worlds. They don't fight each other too much. The only grief I would mention is that pulseaudio could use a policy for when the jack server is running and has asked PA to give up the sound device: In that case it should automatically switch running applications and the default to the jack sink/source, otherwise apps might block, due to this still annoying and longstanding ALSA behaviour of blocking applications when the sound device is busy). But I guess this would not be too much work to implement as PA nicely separates policy from other implementation details - maybe it even is already implemented and just hasn't trickled downstream yet - or I haven't read enough docs yet. They do not fight each other but work side by side quite well and it's a great achievement by the two communities to cooperate that well. There's still some rough spots, true, but complaining here about it won't fix anything. There's PA mailing lists and IRC channels. PAVUControl is an awesome application. I haven't used a DE mixer in ages, cause they all suck ;) Controlling per app volume, switching output and input devices on the fly, what's there not to love? I don't know what people complain about. Disabling PA is possible also in many ways short of disabling the executable flag. Have fun, be positive and regards, Flo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWG5MqAAoJEA5f4Coltk8ZrE4H/AzvJtj4WbLEXFwDiTuAt4Gi B8wtris12qkKQB1Az2gNGeIIpAznctkpfRaKS0yZYigZn6QB3pp2eZkcpyDLcK/G mEFmaGd36oCPO0puHXyf4il+yAYUiisuitIb2IpbjQaKgLfOawPNdq/lsdylTdK5 J3aryZzhOytmo1j4WRMzbhjQoUcjr5O/hk0/xK73I7cKm7jzh+0dfIz1XUSwHLff KpZ3emDD2TaBAgD9s9v1QoWMXwl9hdF1mZ6+YRQ69WxfWb1+OytcFPTji8XTKHLE HypmY5vZBZfgIt8WsllrTF1/JGVagbEF5hPWEfoTp9Ay+YrzcDFybzHQghas+RA= =CeAM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user