I'm always weary about jumping into Pulseaudio (and systemd...) debates
as they always seem to fuel feuds... so I I thought I'd change the
subject line and uninterested people can skip..
On 10/10/2015 01:39, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2015-10-09 at 14:46 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
There is a "PA must be removed" religion... best to ignore it. A lot
of it has more to do with the people invloved with making PA and their
attitudes rather than if PA works well or not. Some of it is also from
when PA had a lot more problems than it does now.
That's wrong. Using one sound server usually just makes more sense, than
using several sound servers that conflict with each other.
In my humble opinion, it's actually right and adheres to a principle of
using a more advanced sound server for more advanced audio/music
scenarios (and software) and a 'deskop-oriented' server for desktop
scenarios.
As with all solution the ideal is when different pieces of technology
dealing with similar content/media/things (in this case audio) are able
to interact / live together.
In my case my audio machine has always also been my 'desktop' machine -
just because - and jack / pulseaudio interaction has never been a big
issue. The issues I have (had) with pulsaudio are always related to its
interaction with 'legacy' alsa-only applications (e.g. the xfce mixer).
My point of view is that Pulseaudio has actually made linux audio (in a
broad meaning) more easy, more usable and more configurable than e.g. on
windows (the control you get with pavcontrol is magnitudes higher and
more intuitive than a windows 'mixer').
I see jack as the more advanced linux audio layer which most users can
easily ignore. For me it's like extreme gamer-oriened graphics (hardware
and software)... I can't really be botherd as long as I can use gimp,
inkscape, pingus, and watch a video smoothly I'm happy with my graphics :-)
The jack paradigm (connect any audio application to any other audio
application) is really powerful (and personally one of the reasons which
drew me to Linux). Yet it is just a bit more complicated to set-up,
especially for users coming from other operating systems, but I wouldn't
blame pulseaudio for that - actually there's no one to 'blame'...
Lorenzo.
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