On 01/10/2015 03:34, jonetsu@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:13:17 +0200 Well, it was a debate and is still is one. 440Hz was adopted in 1955. That does not mean that since that time people can sleep peacefully and never wake up for bullshit, oder ? Maths could be nonsense, I agree. After all, it could turn out that 1 plus 1 does not equal 2.
Sorry but this purported 'newage-ish debate' that certain tunings are more 'natural', 'in harmony with the universe' etc. is total bullshit. Period. It has nothing to do with maths, science or music really.
Because in tonal harmony relative frequencies (of fundamentals and overtones) are relevant, tuning is relative in the same way. In non-tonal music (in its broad meaning) frequencies are of course relevant but discussing tuning doesn't make much sense. 'Ancient' music (pre-Bach, but probably pre-1650s really) is a more complex matter, but there is no historiography evidence of any natural or universe-friendly tuning. Of course in ancient times there were all sorts of superstitions and believings trickling in music, such as music in 3 was heavenly because of the Trinity, etc. But today we (hopefully) do not consider such 'theories' as scientific.
One parameter characteristic of the music which can be influenced by tuning (also depending on the physical characteristics of the instrument) is timbre. As a prominent example consider Yesterday by the Beatles being played in F but in a G major position, i.e. the guitar is tuned 1 tone lower. At this point I could easily argue that because 432 is lower than 440, 432 is a more 'obscure', 'dark','demoniac' tuning than 440 which is more 'brilliant','clearer' and therefore more 'celestial' ;P
As far as I know there has been no scientific research (e.g. through blind tests) demonstrating one tuning makes people feel 'better' than another. Additionally musical listening is a complex phenomenon from psycho-physical point of view, where positiveness/negativeness of body reactions is hard to assess: for example is increased heart rate due to arousal connected to listening to music positive or negative?
That said, for (opera) singers modifying tuning, in particular raising it, might have an impact as singing higher can increase strain on the vocal cords etc. Therefore the 'debate' between singers about singing e.g. Verdi in lower tunings which are more similar to what the composer's epoch standard was, is totally legitimate.
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