Hi Russell: One other note: You should put your VST/VSTi plugins in their own directory. My plugins go into /home/dlphilp/vstplugins/vsti and /home/dlphilp/vstplugins/vst. Plugins with data banks and other needed stuff take their own directories under either the vst or vsti directory. This way you won't wipe them out if I reinstall Wine. Btw, your /usr/lib/wine directory has been removed, correct ? Ditto for the include files for the older version ? Best, dp