Hi Matthias,
On 2018-07-31 01:37, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 05:09:02PM +0530, Balakrishna Godavarthi wrote:
Hi Matthias,
On 2018-07-27 01:21, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 07:51:13PM +0530, Balakrishna Godavarthi wrote:
> > Hi Matthias,
> >
> > On 2018-07-26 00:01, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 09:25:16PM +0530, Balakrishna Godavarthi wrote:
> > > > Hi Matthias,
> > > >
> > > > On 2018-07-24 01:24, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 07:02:43PM +0530, Balakrishna Godavarthi wrote:
> > > > > > + * sometimes we will face communication synchronization issues,
> > > > > > + * like reading version command timeouts. In which HCI_SETUP fails,
> > > > > > + * to overcome these issues, we try to communicate by performing an
> > > > > > + * COLD power OFF and ON.
> > > > > > + */
> > > > > > + for (i = 1; i <= 10 && ret; i++) {
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it really that bad that more than say 3 iterations might be needed?
> > > > >
> > > > [Bala]: will restrict to 3 iterations.
> > >
> > > Is 3x expected to be enough to 'guarantee' as successful
> > > initialization? Just wondered about the 10x since it suddendly changed
> > > from 1x. What is the failure rate without retries?
> > >
> > > Could you provide more information about the 'communication
> > > synchronization issues'? Is the root cause understood? Maybe there is
> > > a better way than retries.
> > >
> >
> > [Bala]: basically before sending a every patch series we run a
> > stress test
> > to the driver to detect the bugs.
> > in recent test results found one interesting bug that BT
> > setups
> > fails with version request timeouts,
> > after we do a reboot for the device.
> > we debugged the issue and found that wcn3900 is not
> > responding to
> > the version request commands
> > sent by HOST. this is because before reboot, wcn3990 is in
> > on state
> > i.e. we are communicating to device.
> > then we did a reboot and HOST is not sending a power off
> > request to
> > the regulators to turn off.
> > so after reboot wcn3990 is still in ON state where it will not
> > respond to version request commands which in turn fails HCI_SETUP.
> > so we are sending the power off pulse and then sending the
> > power on
> > pulse.
> > coming back to 3x or 10x iteration this is to avoid any such
> > synchronization issues.
> > i agreed for 3x because of stress test results. we have
> > success rate
> > of 99% for single iteration, where as 3x iterations will helps to
> > handle 1%
> > fails cases.
>
> Thanks for the clarification. Couldn't you assure the device is in a
> defined state by calling qca_power_shutdown() as one of the first
> things in qca_wcn3990_init()?
[Bala]: we have reasons behind writing qca_power_setup(true) at the
start.
1. the reason to add iteration here, is to handle BT fails
cases
either due to communication failure of wcn3900 or due to regulator
issues.
before calling qca_setup(), we have our regulator turned on
and
in qca_setup i.e. init routine if we added power_shutdown as first
statement
before
communicating with chip then regulator will be off and
again we
need to call function to ON regulators.
so it could be some thing like this
init(){
for () {
shutdown() // regs are off
poweron(true) // regs are on.
if(!start communicating with chip()) {
break;
}
}
}
as the reason to add the iteration handling is to overcome
1% of
fail cases, so every time when we call it will turn off the regs and
turn it
back. which require an turning in off regs and on it back for 99% pass
cases.
But would turning off the regs really add a significant delay here?
The setup is already really slow, with a 100ms delay in the
loop (still wonder if booting the chip without loading firmware really
takes that long) and later the firmware is loaded.
[Bala]: By default we will have an firmware loaded in ROM of wcn3990,
100 ms delay will help wcn3990 boot up with default firmware.
Once it is booted up with default firmware on ROM, we will
download the firmware from the firmware files, these firmware files
contains bug fixes of wcn3990. Once the firmware files are
loaded we will send the reset command to wcn3990.
wcn3990 will start working with latest firmware which is loaded.
If the chip needs to be in a defined state we should make sure to put
in into that state, unless there is a significant overhead wrt 'try
first and only reset in case of failure'. As a nice side effect the
code would be cleaner and we probably could get rid of the loop
completely, since it's supposed to address the case where the chip
wasn't properly reset on a reboot.
[Bala]: i too agree with you, Now we have observed issue because of
reboot. But let us take a real time example here.
if clocks of UART are not stable or there is an issue of UART
GPIO's or some thing related might have broken in UART. Then will have
communication issues with BT chip.
where HCI_SETUP fails, instead of giving a fails status, we are
trying to communicate once again and these is also be in 1% of fail
cases.
2. this is the one of the main reason for adding
qca_power_setup(true) in the init() function first.
as we know that power management is so critical for long
lasting
of battery.
now present implementation is when we off BT from UI i.e.
hci0
down, we put BT into an suspend or low power mode, as soon as we turn
ON the
BT back from UI we make hci0 up.
the above is putting device into suspend state and bring it
back
where the regulator are still on state. so we will have leakage
currents
which can be minimal or may be in few mA.
to over come the above case, we want to do an cold on/off
for BT
chip wcn3990. i.e. when bt is off from UI, we will off the regulators
and
turn on it again once the BT is ON from UI.
every time we disable i.e. off BT from UI we will call
hdev->shutdown() i.e. completely powering off the chip.
so it require an reprogram again, when we turn ON BT from
UI. it
will call qca_setup()--> init().. so here actually qca_power_on(true)
will
turn on the chip and dump the fw files into it.
so that is also a reason behind to write power on first.
the above feature is under testing state, will post a patch
series once the driver code merged to bt-next.
Thanks for the info.
If I understand correctly what you describe isn't incompatible with
performing a proper reset. 'vregs_on' can be checked to avoid
disabling already disabled regulators:
if (qcadev->bt_power->vregs_on)
qca_power_shutdown(hdev);
// short delay needed here?
qca_power_setup(hu, true);
Unless there are drawbacks that I'm missing I think that's preferable
over the retry loop.
> The code flow with the gotos and the error handling at the end of the
> loop is a bit messy. Moving the power down to the top of the loop
> (basically in line with my comment above to get rid of the loop) would
> help here. In this case checking 'ret' in the loop condition (which I
> suggested to remove) would make sense, since it elimninates the need
> for the break/return in the success case. But if we can do without the
> loop even better :)
>
[Bala]: there is a reason to add the loop here, here we go with reason
to
add.
let us assume that qca_setup fails to establish a
communication with
wcn3990
then next steps will not be pass and we can't populate hci0
rfkill
entry.
in traditional bluez stack i.e. bluetoothd daemon will looks
for
hci0, if we have entry for hci0
then only BT option is visible in UI or else BT option will
not be
available in UI.
we don't have any mechanism handled in bluez user space to
reinitiate the communication at latest to try for second time to make
hci0
up.
so that is reason behind to add so that we can handle fault
handling
of wcn3990 and establish the communication to make BT option available
in
BT.
The loop is supposed to address the following case (quoting you from
earlier discussion in the thread):
found one interesting bug that BT setups fails with version request
timeouts, after we do a reboot for the device. we debugged the issue
and found that wcn3900 is not responding to the version request
commands sent by HOST. this is because before reboot, wcn3990 is in
on state i.e. we are communicating to device. then we did a reboot
and HOST is not sending a power off request to the regulators to
turn off. so after reboot wcn3990 is still in ON state where it will
not respond to version request commands which in turn fails
HCI_SETUP. so we are sending the power off pulse and then sending the
power on pulse.
My suggestion to address this failure case is to reset/power off the
chip before initializing it. With that the loop shouldn't be needed,
actually it wasn't there before you found this specific error.
[Bala]: I will update loop according to your suggestions, But i am
little bit worried, if the HCI_SETUP fails due to some
external issue of UART, so in that cases we can't able to handle
with out loop and as i said, some operating system,
will not handle HCI SETUP failures, we at the driver need to
handle such cases too.
--
Regards
Balakrishna.
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