On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 07:16:30AM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote: > On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 05:51:07AM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2024 at 03:12:33PM -0700, Boqun Feng wrote: > > > What's the issue of having AtomicI32 and AtomicI64 first then? We don't > > > need to do 1 or 2 until the real users show up. > > > > > > And I'd like also to point out that there are a few more trait bound > > > designs needed for Atomic<T>, for example, Atomic<u32> and Atomic<i32> > > > have different sets of API (no inc_unless_negative() for u32). > > > > > > Don't make me wrong, I have no doubt we can handle this in the type > > > system, but given the design work need, won't it make sense that we take > > > baby steps on this? We can first introduce AtomicI32 and AtomicI64 which > > > already have real users, and then if there are some values of generic > > > atomics, we introduce them and have proper discussion on design. > > > > > > To me, it's perfectly fine that Atomic{I32,I64} co-exist with Atomic<T>. > > > What's the downside? A bit specific example would help me understand > > > the real concern here. > > > > Err, what? > > > > Of course we want generic atomics, and we need that for properly > > supporting cmpxchg. > > > > Nope. Note this series only introduces the atomic types (atomic_ C > APIs), but cmpxchg C APIs (no atomic_ prefix) are probably presented via > a different API, where we need to make it easier to interact with normal > types, and we may use generic there. > > > Bogun, you've got all the rust guys pushing for doing this with > > generics, I'm not sure why you're being stubborn here? > > Hmm? Have you seen the email I replied to John, a broader Rust community > seems doesn't appreciate the idea of generic atomics. Apologies, I appear to have gotten things backwards in my pre-coffee reading, I'll have to catch up on the whole thread :)