On 04/12/23 19:20, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 05:51:49PM +0100, Valentin Schneider wrote: >> On 20/11/23 13:05, Peter Zijlstra wrote: >> > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 11:55:28AM +0100, Valentin Schneider wrote: >> >> __use_tsc is only ever enabled in __init tsc_enable_sched_clock(), so mark >> >> it as __ro_after_init. >> >> >> >> Signed-off-by: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@xxxxxxxxxx> >> >> --- >> >> arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c | 2 +- >> >> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) >> >> >> >> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c >> >> index 15f97c0abc9d0..f19b42ea40573 100644 >> >> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c >> >> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/tsc.c >> >> @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(tsc_khz); >> >> static int __read_mostly tsc_unstable; >> >> static unsigned int __initdata tsc_early_khz; >> >> >> >> -static DEFINE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(__use_tsc); >> >> +static DEFINE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE_RO(__use_tsc); >> > >> > So sure, we can absolutely do that, but do we want to take this one >> > further perhaps? "notsc" on x86_64 makes no sense what so ever. Lets >> > drag things into this millennium. >> > >> >> Just to make sure I follow: currently, for the static key to be enabled, we >> (mostly) need: >> o X86_FEATURE_TSC is in CPUID >> o determine_cpu_tsc_frequencies()->pit_hpet_ptimer_calibrate_cpu() passes >> >> IIUC all X86_64 systems have a TSC, so the CPUID feature should be a given. >> >> AFAICT pit_hpt_ptimer_calibrate_cpu() relies on having either HPET or the >> ACPI PM timer, the latter should be widely available, though X86_PM_TIMER >> can be disabled via EXPERT - is that a fringe case we don't care about, or >> did I miss something? I don't really know this stuff, and I'm trying to >> write a changelog... > > Ah, I was mostly just going by the fact that all of x86_64 have TSC and > disabling it makes no sense. > > TSC calibration is always 'fun', but I don't know of a system where its > failure causes us to not use TSC, Thomas? Having another look at this, it looks like the actual requirements for the TSC being used are either of: o CPUID accepting 0x16 as eax input (cf. cpu_khz_from_cpuid()) o MSR_FSB_FREQ being available (cf. cpu_khz_from_msr()) o pit_hpet_ptimer_calibrate_cpu() doesn't mess up I couldn't find any guarantees for x86_64 on having the processor frequency information CPUID leaf, nor for the FSB_FREQ MSR (both tsc_msr_cpu_ids and the SDM seem to point at only a handful of models). Also for x86_64 there is this "apicpmtimer" cmdline arg which currently disables the TSC. The commit that introduced it [1] suggests there are x86_64 systems out there with calibration issues, so now I'm not sure whether we can kill the static key for x86_64 :( [1]: 0c3749c41f5e ("[PATCH] x86_64: Calibrate APIC timer using PM timer") followed by: 7fd67843b96f ("[PATCH] x86_64: Disable tsc when apicpmtimer is active")