Re: [PATCH V2 2/2] LoongArch: Add qspinlock support

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On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 3:05 PM Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 4:26 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 9:56 AM Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 1:45 PM Guo Ren <guoren@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 12:46 PM Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On NUMA system, the performance of qspinlock is better than generic
> > > > > spinlock. Below is the UnixBench test results on a 8 nodes (4 cores
> > > > > per node, 32 cores in total) machine.
> >
> > You are still missing an explanation here about why this is safe to
> > do. Is there are
> > architectural guarantee for forward progress, or do you rely on
> > specific microarchitectural
> > behavior?
> In my understanding, "guarantee for forward progress" means to avoid
> many ll/sc happening at the same time and no one succeeds.
> LoongArch uses "exclusive access (with timeout) of ll" to avoid
> simultaneous ll (it also blocks other memory load/store on the same
> address), and uses "random delay of sc" to avoid simultaneous sc
> (introduced in CPUCFG3, bit 3 and bit 4 [1]). This mechanism can
> guarantee forward progress in practice.
>
> [1] https://loongson.github.io/LoongArch-Documentation/LoongArch-Vol1-EN.html#_cpucfg

If there is an architected feature bit for the delay, does that mean that there
is a chance of CPUs getting released that set this to zero?

In that case, you probably need a boot-time check for this feature bit
to refuse booting a kernel with qspinlock enabled when it has more than
one active CPU but does not support the random backoff, and you need
to make the choice user-visible, so users are able to configure their
kernels using the ticket spinlock. The ticket lock may also be the best
choice for smaller configurations such as a single-socket 3A5000 with
four cores and no NUMA.

       Arnd



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