On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 10:28 AM Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I've spent some quality time staring at generated assembler diff in the past > days, and looking for code patterns of refcount_dec_and_test users, without > much success. There are some cases which end up working by chance, e.g. in > cases where the if leg has a smp_acquire__after_ctrl_dep and the else leg has > code that emits a barrier(), but I did not find any buggy generated > code per se. In order to observe those issues in real life, we would > really need to have identical then/else legs to the branch. Yeah, that's been very much my feeling too during this whole discussion (including, very much, earlier threads). All the examples about this being a problem are those kinds of "identical or near-identical if/else statements" and they just don't seem to be all that realistic. Because immediately when the if-statement actually does something _meaningful_, it just turns into a branch. And when people use atomics - even the weak READ/WRITE_ONCE() kinds of things, never mind anything stronger - it really doesn't give the compiler the option to move things around all that much. There's a reason the source code uses an if-statement, after all: that is literally the logical code flow, and people write a very particular dependency chain that is just very fundamental. Having essentially the same thing on both sides just isn't a realistic thing to do, and if it were - and you cared about performance in that case, which is what this is all about, after all - you'd write it very differently. Linus