On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 05:22:04PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 04:13:57PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > > > In fact, maybe it's actually necessary to bundle the load and branch > > together. I looked at some of the examples of compilers breaking control > > dependencies from memory-barriers.txt and the "boolean short-circuit" > > example seems to defeat volatile_if: > > > > void foo(int *x, int *y) > > { > > volatile_if (READ_ONCE(*x) || 1 > 0) > > WRITE_ONCE(*y, 42); > > } > > Yeah, I'm not too bothered about this. Broken is broken. > > If this were a compiler feature, the above would be a compile error. But > alas, we're not there yet :/ and the best we get to say at this point > is: don't do that then. This is an example of a "syntactic" dependency versus a "semantic" dependency. We shouldn't expect syntactic control dependencies to be preserved. As a rule, people don't write non-semantic dependencies on purpose. But they can occur in some situations, thanks to definitions the programmer isn't aware of. One example would be: (In some obscure header file): #define NUM_FOO 1 (Then in real code): if (READ_ONCE(*x) % NUM_FOO) ... Alan