> On Thu, 27 Nov 2014, David Hildenbrand wrote: > > > OTOH, there is no reason why we need to disable preemption over that > > > page_fault_disabled() region. There are code pathes which really do > > > not require to disable preemption for that. > > > > > > We have that seperated in preempt-rt for obvious reasons and IIRC > > > Peter Zijlstra tried to distangle it in mainline some time ago. I > > > forgot why that never got merged. > > > > > > > Of course, we can completely separate that in our page fault code by doing > > pagefault_disabled() checks instead of in_atomic() checks (even in add on > > patches later). > > > > > We tie way too much stuff on the preemption count already, which is a > > > mightmare because we have no clear distinction of protection > > > scopes. > > > > Although it might not be optimal, but keeping a separate counter for > > pagefault_disable() as part of the preemption counter seems to be the only > > doable thing right now. > > It needs to be seperate, if it should be useful. Otherwise we just > have a extra accounting in preempt_count() which does exactly the same > thing as we have now: disabling preemption. > > Now you might say, that we could mask out that part when checking > preempt_count, but that wont work on x86 as x86 has the preempt > counter as a per cpu variable and not as a per thread one. Ah right, it's per cpu on x86. So it really belongs to a thread if we want to demangle preemption and pagefault_disable. Would work for now, but for x86 not on the long run. > > But if you want to distangle pagefault disable from preempt disable > then you must move it to the thread, because it is a property of the > thread. preempt count is very much a per cpu counter as you can only > go through schedule when it becomes 0. Thinking about it, this makes perfect sense! > > Btw, I find the x86 representation way more clear, because it > documents that preempt count is a per cpu BKL and not a magic thread > property. And sadly that is how preempt count is used ... > > > I am not sure if a completely separated counter is even possible, > > increasing the size of thread_info. > > And adding a ulong to thread_info is going to create exactly which > problem? If we're allowed to increase the size of thread_info - absolutely fine with me! (I am not sure if some archs have special constraints on the size) Will see what I can come up with. Thanks! > > Thanks, > > tglx > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-arch" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html