Am 26.11.2014 um 17:32 schrieb Michael S. Tsirkin:
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>>>> This is what happened on our side (very recent kernel):
>>>>
>>>> spin_lock(&lock)
>>>> copy_to_user(...)
>>>> spin_unlock(&lock)
>>>
>>> That's a deadlock even without copy_to_user - it's
>>> enough for the thread to be preempted and another one
>>> to try taking the lock.
>>
>> Huh? With CONFIG_PREEMPT spin_lock will disable preemption. (we had preempt = server anyway).
>
> Are you sure? Can you point me where it does this please?
spin_lock --> raw_spin_lock --> _raw_spin_lock --> __raw_spin_lock
static inline void __raw_spin_lock(raw_spinlock_t *lock)
{
----> preempt_disable(); <-----
spin_acquire(&lock->dep_map, 0, 0, _RET_IP_);
LOCK_CONTENDED(lock, do_raw_spin_trylock, do_raw_spin_lock);
}
Michael, please be serious. The whole kernel would be broken if spin_lock would not disable preemption.
>
>> But please: One step back. The problem is not the good path. The problem is that we lost a debugging aid for a known to be broken case. In other words: Our code had a bug. Older kernels detected that kind of bug. With your change we no longer saw the sleeping while atomic. Thats it. See my other mail.
>>
>> Christian
>
> You want to add more debugging tools, fine.
We dont want to add, we want to fix something that used to work
> But this one was > giving users in field false positives.
So lets try to fix those, ok? If we cant, then tough luck. But coming up with wrong statements is not helpful.
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> The point is that *_user is safe with preempt off.
> It returns an error gracefully.
> It does not sleep.
> It does not trigger the scheduler in that context.
There are special cases where your statement is true. But its not in general.
copy_to_user might fault and that fault might sleep and reschedule. For example handle_mm_fault might go down to pud_alloc, pmd_alloc etc and all these functions could do an GFP_KERNEL allocation. Which might sleep. Which will schedule.
>
>
> David's patch makes it say it does, so it's wrong.
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