On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 10:28 -0800, Casey Schaufler wrote: > On 12/9/2017 2:20 AM, Micka�l Sala�n wrote: > > What about automatically create > > and assign an ID to a process when it enters a namespace different > > than > > one of its parent process? This delegates the (permission) > > responsibility to the use of namespaces (e.g. /proc/sys/user/max_* > > limit). > > That gets ugly when you have a container that uses user, filesystem, > network and whatever else namespaces. If all containers used the same > set of namespaces I think this would be a fine idea, but they don't. > > > One interesting side effect of this approach would be to be able to > > identify which processes are in the same set of namespaces, even if > > not > > spawn from the container but entered after its creation (i.e. using > > setns), by creating container IDs as a (deterministic) checksum > > from the > > /proc/self/ns/* IDs. > > > > Since the concern is to identify a container, I think the ability > > to > > audit the switch from one container ID to another is enough. I > > don't > > think we need nested IDs. > > Because a container doesn't have to use namespaces to be a container > you still need a mechanism for a process to declare that it is in > fact > in a container, and to identify the container. I like the idea but I'm still tossing it around in my head (and thinking about Casey's statement too). Lets say we have a 'docker-like' container with pid=100 netns=X,userns=Y,mountns=Z. If I'm on the host in all init namespaces and I run nsenter -t 100 -n ip link set eth0 promisc on How should this be logged? Did this command run in it's own 'container' unrelated to the 'docker-like' container? -Eric -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-api" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html