On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 08:16:33AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote: > If we start shaming people for not providing unit tests, all we'll accomplish is > that people will stop providing bug fixes. Yes, this is the key! Steven, just look at everything marked with a "Fixes:" or "stable@" tag from 4.12-rc1..4.12 and try to determine how you would write a test for the majority of them. Yes, for some subsystems this can work (look at xfstests as one great example for filesystems, same for the i915 tests), but for the majority of the kernel, at this point in time, it doesn't make sense. So take Carlos's advice, start small, do it for your subsystem if you don't touch hardware (easy peasy, right?), and let's see how it goes, and see if we have the infrastructure to do it even today. Right now, kselftests is finally getting a unified output format, which is great, it shows that people are starting to use and rely on it. What else will we need to make this more widely used, we don't know yet... thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-api" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html