On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 09:27:57AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > Your "b" above is what I would like to push. But who's going to enforce > this? With 10,000 changes per release, and a lot of them are fixes, the > best we can do is the honor system. Start shaming people that don't > have a regression test along with a Fixes tag (but we don't want people > to fix bugs without adding that tag either). There is a fine line one > must walk between getting people to change their approaches to bugs and > regression tests, and pissing them off where they start doing the > opposite of what would be best for the community. I would bet, for the huge majority of our fixes, they are fixes for specific hardware, or workarounds for specific hardware issues. Now writing tests for those is not an impossible task (look at what the i915 developers have), but it is very very hard overall, especially if the base infrastructure isn't there to do it. For specific examples, here's the shortlog for fixes that went into drivers/usb/host/ for 4.12 after 4.12-rc1 came out. Do you know of a way to write a test for these types of things? usb: xhci: ASMedia ASM1042A chipset need shorts TX quirk usb: xhci: Fix USB 3.1 supported protocol parsing usb: host: xhci-plat: propagate return value of platform_get_irq() xhci: Fix command ring stop regression in 4.11 xhci: remove GFP_DMA flag from allocation USB: xhci: fix lock-inversion problem usb: host: xhci-ring: don't need to clear interrupt pending for MSI enabled hcd usb: host: xhci-mem: allocate zeroed Scratchpad Buffer xhci: apply PME_STUCK_QUIRK and MISSING_CAS quirk for Denverton usb: xhci: trace URB before giving it back instead of after USB: host: xhci: use max-port define USB: ehci-platform: fix companion-device leak usb: r8a66597-hcd: select a different endpoint on timeout usb: r8a66597-hcd: decrease timeout And look at the commits with the "Fixes:" tag in it, I do, I read every one of them. See if writing a test for the majority of them would even be possible... I don't mean to poo-poo the idea, but please realize that around 75% of the kernel is hardware/arch support, so that means that 75% of the changes/fixes deal with hardware things (yes, change is in direct correlation to size of the codebase in the tree, strange but true). If only I had a subsystem that didn't have to deal with hardware, that must be so easy to work with :) thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-api" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html