Re: [RFC 00/15] ACPI graph support

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On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> On 06/10/16 14:04, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@xxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
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>
> [...]
>
>>> No doubt about that, though controlling it is another question.
>>> Especially ARM vendors who have some driver for DT might just use this
>>> method without anyone noticing, ignoring the ACPI method as everything
>>> just works out of box. That's the main worry. Also it also provides no
>>> incentive for them to work with ASWG to enhance ACPI specification.
>>
>>
>> They will need to hack the kernel to do that, because the mainline
>> will not support anything like regulator or pinctrl support based on
>> DT properties, at least as long as I have any influence on that.
>>
>
> OK, that's good.
>
>> And if they need to hack the kernel anyway, nothing prevents them from
>> hacking it to support whatever properties they like even if we don't
>> put any support for any generic _DSD properties into the mainline.
>> That's why the whole "oh but this allows ARM vendors to abuse things"
>> argument doesn't hold any water in my view.
>>
>
> While I agree with you, the argument which will be done and will win
> most of the time to upstream something is that "we have shipped the
> product with that table, we need to support it upstream...". I don't
> think even you disagree with that ;)

Well, maybe they should have talked to the upstream before shipping
the product with that table?  Failing to do so is like jumping to a
pool from a tower without checking how much water is there in it in
the first place ...

Thanks,
Rafael
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