On 21 January 2015 at 00:50, Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jan 2015, Hanjun Guo wrote: >> On 2015年01月20日 02:01, Mark Rutland wrote: >> > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 05:52:33PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote: >> > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 04:59:47PM +0000, Jon Masters wrote: >> > > > On 01/19/2015 10:13 AM, Grant Likely wrote: >> > > > > On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 13:51:45 +0000 >> > > > > , Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@xxxxxxx> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 11:55:32AM +0000, Ard Biesheuvel wrote: >> > > > > > > On 19 January 2015 at 11:42, Catalin Marinas >> > > > > > > <catalin.marinas@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 03:04:52PM +0000, Hanjun Guo wrote: >> > > > > > > > > From: Al Stone <al.stone@xxxxxxxxxx> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Introduce one early parameters "off" and "force" for "acpi", >> > > > > > > > > acpi=off >> > > > > > > > > will be the default behavior for ARM64, so introduce >> > > > > > > > > acpi=force to >> > > > > > > > > enable ACPI on ARM64. >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Disable ACPI before early parameters parsed, and enable it to >> > > > > > > > > pass >> > > > > > > > > "acpi=force" if people want use ACPI on ARM64. This ensures DT >> > > > > > > > > be >> > > > > > > > > the prefer one if ACPI table and DT both are provided at this >> > > > > > > > > moment. >> > > > > > > > [...] >> > > > > > > > > --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/setup.c >> > > > > > > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/setup.c >> > > > > > > > > @@ -62,6 +62,7 @@ >> > > > > > > > > #include <asm/memblock.h> >> > > > > > > > > #include <asm/psci.h> >> > > > > > > > > #include <asm/efi.h> >> > > > > > > > > +#include <asm/acpi.h> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > unsigned int processor_id; >> > > > > > > > > EXPORT_SYMBOL(processor_id); >> > > > > > > > > @@ -388,6 +389,8 @@ void __init setup_arch(char **cmdline_p) >> > > > > > > > > early_fixmap_init(); >> > > > > > > > > early_ioremap_init(); >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > + disable_acpi(); >> > > > > > > > > + >> > > > > > > > > parse_early_param(); >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > /* >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Did we get to any conclusion here? DT being the preferred one is >> > > > > > > > fine >> > > > > > > > when both DT and ACPI are present but do we still want the >> > > > > > > > kernel to >> > > > > > > > ignore ACPI altogether if DT is not present? It's a bit harder >> > > > > > > > to detect >> > > > > > > > the presence of DT at this point since the EFI_STUB added one >> > > > > > > > already. I >> > > > > > > > guess we could move the "acpi=force" argument passing to >> > > > > > > > EFI_STUB if no >> > > > > > > > DT is present at boot. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Since the EFI stub populates the /chosen node in DT, I would >> > > > > > > prefer >> > > > > > > for it to add a property there to indicate whether it created the >> > > > > > > DT >> > > > > > > from scratch rather than adding ACPI specific stuff in there (even >> > > > > > > if >> > > > > > > it is just a string to concatenate) >> > > > > > >> > > > > > This works for me. So we could pass "acpi=force" in EFI stub if it >> > > > > > created the DT from scratch *and* ACPI tables are present (can it >> > > > > > detect >> > > > > > the latter? And maybe it could print something if none are >> > > > > > available). >> > > > > > If that works, the actual kernel can assume that ACPI needs to be >> > > > > > explicitly enabled via acpi=force, irrespective of how much >> > > > > > information >> > > > > > it has in DT. >> > > > > >> > > > > Ditto for me. I think this is a fine solution. And, yes, the stub can >> > > > > easily detect the presence of ACPI by looking in the UEFI config >> > > > > table. >> > > > >> > > > I get the point behind doing this, but could we not have it pass in a >> > > > different parameter than =force? Perhaps something new? I'd like to >> > > > separate out the case that it was enabled automatically vs explicitly >> > > > forced on by a user wanting to use ACPI on a system with both tables. >> > > >> > > Ard had a point, so we should probably not pass acpi=force from EFI stub >> > > (especially since a user may explicitly pass acpi=off irrespective of DT >> > > presence). Some other property in the chosen node? It's not even an ABI >> > > since that's a contract between EFI stub and the rest of the kernel, so >> > > an in-kernel only interface. >> > >> > Not strictly true once kexec is in place. Then it becomes a stub -> >> > kernel -> kernel -> kernel -> ... interface, alnog with the rest of the >> > properties the stub puts in the DTB. >> > >> > Having something like /chosen/linux,uefi-stub-generated-dtb sounds sane >> > regardless. >> >> How about the patch (just RFC, maybe it is horrible :) ) below: >> >> When system supporting both DT and ACPI but firmware providing >> no dtb, we can use this linux,uefi-stub-generated-dtb property >> to let kernel know that we can try ACPI configuration data. >> >> Signed-off-by: Hanjun Guo <hanjun.guo@xxxxxxxxxx> >> --- >> Documentation/devicetree/bindings/chosen.txt | 19 ++++++++++++++++ >> arch/arm64/kernel/setup.c | 34 >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++- >> drivers/firmware/efi/libstub/fdt.c | 6 +++++ >> 3 files changed, 58 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) >> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/chosen.txt >> b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/chosen.txt >> index ed838f4..18776b9 100644 >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/chosen.txt >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/chosen.txt >> @@ -44,3 +44,22 @@ Implementation note: Linux will look for the property >> "linux,stdout-path" or >> on PowerPC "stdout" if "stdout-path" is not found. However, the >> "linux,stdout-path" and "stdout" properties are deprecated. New platforms >> should only use the "stdout-path" property. >> + >> + >> +linux,uefi-stub-generated-dtb property >> +-------------------------------------- >> + >> +UEFI stub will generate this property in the chosen node to let linux kernel >> +know that there is no DTB provided by firmware. >> + >> +There is a use case for system supporting both DT and ACPI, when firmware >> +doesn't provide DT, we can try ACPI configration data to boot the system. >> + >> +Usage: >> + >> +linux,uefi-stub-generated-dtb = "true" means that it is true that the dtb >> +is generated by uefi stub >> + >> +or >> + >> +linux,uefi-stub-generated-dtb = "false" is the reverse. > > I am sorry to have to make the discussion even more complex than already > is, however we have one more use case to consider: Linux booting on Xen > as Dom0. > > When booting as Dom0 on ACPI hardware, Linux doesn't have access to the > UEFI firmware (no EFI stub). Xen passes a small device tree blob with > a chosen node, memory information and a pointer to the ACPI tables. > It looks similar to the DTB passed to Linux by the EFI stub but it is > generated by Xen instead. > > See also Christoffer's explanation: > > http://marc.info/?l=linux-arm-kernel&m=142169977401658&w=2 > > The actual patches haven't been posted to the list yet, but Linaro seems > to have an internal prototype working already. We really need to > document this interface properly soon if we expect future Linux and Xen > to adhere to it (hint hint). > > In the Dom0 case Linux should parse the small device tree binary, then > enable acpi. > > Maybe we could generalize the concept of this uefi-stub-generated-dtb > variable and call it instead "enable_acpi", optionally exporting the > RDSP, like Parth's patches to Xen are doing (I haven't seen the code yet > so I don't know the details). > > Do you think that would work for you? Here is the actual patch for booting linux on xen without uefi, https://git.linaro.org/people/parth.dixit/xen-acpi-support/leg-kernel.git/commitdiff/0b9ca47a801d6f63e6fbf1885962b7d6b9910d1d?hp=380ad5d8817a03204e6a92d0ad1450ec32886d80 it is working and we are able to boot to linux from xen. We are doing this by passing RSDP pointer in skeleton device tree to linux and reading it as part of early boot initialization. As explained by stefano and christoffer we are not exposing UEFI so the EFI stub based approach will not work for us. Also we need to describe the memory in device tree as ACPI does not contain that information. Is it possible that we don't tie up EFI with ACPI ? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
