On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > This *not* a regression, it is an intended behavior change [..] That counts as a regression. If things used to work, and they don't work, it's a regression. If it's intentional, that just makes it worse. > Yes this may break existing configurations for some users, most likely > users running some custom setup, who thus should be able to fix things > by adding one more customization to there setup. .. and apparently this whole paragraph is completely bogus. It *does* break things, and for normal people. That's what the bug report is all about. So don't waffle about it. Bjørn, what's your setup? Is this perhaps solvable some other way? > TL;DR: This change really is for the better and is here to stay. Wrong. We don't break existing setups, and your attitude needs fixing. Rafael, please get it reverted, or I will have to revert it. We have *long* had a rule that we don't break things "in order to improve things for others", and quite frankly, power management and ACPI in particular was exactly *why* that rule was introduced, because the whole "one step back, two steps forward" model does not work. The problem needs to be solved some other way, and developers need to f*cking stop with the "we can break peoples setups" mentality./ Hans, seriously. You have the wrong mental model. Fix it. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html