On Tuesday 30 March 2010 18:12:40 Joey Lee wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > 於 二,2010-03-30 於 10:23 +0100,Thomas Renninger 提到: > > Hi, ... > > Comments? > > What userspace tools are candidates to implement this if this > > makes sense? > > > > HAL + pm-util or DeviceKit-power might the candidates. But, if there > have no those component in userland, what will acpi thermal module do? > Direct shutdown? > And, how can kernel space know userland can do this job well? Might wait > 10 seconds if system doesn't S4 or shutdown? Yep, my idea is to e.g. provide: /sys/class/thermal/S4_capable By default you get: cat /sys/class/thermal/S4_capable 0 and the thermal driver will call the same shutdown method if the hot thermal tp is reached as if the critical is reached. If pm-utils does: echo 1 >/sys/class/thermal/S4_capable it has to make sure it picks up acpi thermal hot event and initiates S4. If S4 fails for whatever reasons (no swap, stroking some kernel drivers fails, unmounting file systems fails, ...), it has to make sure to force a system shutdown (just call /sbin/poweroff the same way the kernel does currently with a critical thermal event?). Emergency shutdown is then out of kernels hand (as it is currently for HOT anyway which is dangerous). Hmm, this is acpi specific, possibly it should be a new dir here: /sys/firmware/acpi/thermal/S4_capable or something else? Thomas -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-acpi" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html