When I booted up this time the modem did dial and I heard the operator recording -not sure what it was. When it finished booting I tried wvdial and got the same result, it said I had no valid phone number -password etc. Just for grins I tried gnome-ppp and it dialed again and this is the log file. Check permissions, or specify a "PPPD Path" option in wvdial.conf. --> Don't know what to do! Starting pppd and hoping for the best. --> Unable to run /usr/sbin/pppd. --> Check permissions, or specify a "PPPD Path" option in wvdial.conf. --> Don't know what to do! Starting pppd and hoping for the best. --> Unable to run /usr/sbin/pppd. --> Check permissions, or specify a "PPPD Path" option in wvdial.conf. --> Don't know what to do! Starting pppd and hoping for the best. --> Unable to run /usr/sbin/ppp I don't know what to do with wvdial config because it shows the passwrods-username -phone etc is there and I do not know how to check permissions or specify a pppd path. Thanks