* Present:
+ Caolan, Cloph, Olivier, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari, Stephan, Miklos, Eike, Xisco, Gabriel, Michael M, Tomaz
* Completed Action Items:
* Pending Action Items:
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.6 status: alpha 1 in 2 weeks, from master
+ feature freeze in June
+ 7.5 status: 7.5.3 rc2 this week, later today
+ patches in the queue: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/project:core+branch:libreoffice-7-5-3+status:open
+ 7.4 status: 7.4.7 rc2 next week
+ last planned release, be careful with backports
+ Linux baseline bump (Ilmari)
+ any decision?
+ would rather go with something Debian-based (Cloph)
+ next step? (Ilmari)
+ problem is not switching the baseline, but providing two baselines for the two active branches (Cloph)
+ not quite sure yet how to solve it
+ Windows baseline is also about to change
+ guess the best way is to only migrate a portion of the builders to the new baseline, then gradually migrate everything over
+ for Windows, move them at the same time, no two different baselines
+ can decide after feature freeze? (Ilmari)
+ not for Windows (Cloph)
+ for Linux, glibc version would change
+ didn't do comparison so far
+ would rather avoid rolling CentOS
+ may decide in the infra call? (Ilmari)
+ for Linux, need to think about libstdc++, and the compiler version that comes from RHEL devtoolset (Stephan)
+ so far was more focused on Windows (Cloph)
+ fear that libstdc++ static linking (coming from devtools) would be lost on an other distro (Stephan)
+ would hope Debian stable is just new enough that such static linking would not be necessary (Cloph)
=> get back to this when Cloph has a concrete plan
+ NSS baseline problem (Miklos)
+ we use system NSS
+ internal xmlsec is bumped, breaking Ubuntu 18 setups
+ but this just happened to work by accident before, baseline is RHEL7
+ how to resolve this conflict?
+ it's not a big problem to break such setups (Stephan)
+ if somebody steps up to do the work, that's fine (Miklos)
+ i.e. patch internal xmlsec to work with older NSS
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Helpcontent2
+ Updates, new contents, fixes (ohallot, S. Chaiklin)
+ Guides
+ Preparing for 7.6
+ please illustrate your achievements in the release notes
+ add images and blog post links on the topic.
+ help us to understand and add info in Help and guides
+ if info is missing, then file a TDF bug and CC the developer? (Miklos)
+ will do that (Olivier)
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
266(266) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
created 8(-4) 43(3) 119(-4) 310(3)
commented 5(-2) 94(-8) 331(-16) 1118(-3)
resolved 1(-2) 15(-1) 56(-2) 176(0)
+ top 10 contributors:
Seth Chaiklin made 50 changes in 1 month, and 490 changes in 1 year
Olivier Hallot made 42 changes in 1 month, and 465 changes in 1 year
Bogdan B made 41 changes in 1 month, and 220 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 37 changes in 1 month, and 192 changes in 1 year
Heiko Tietze made 14 changes in 1 month, and 114 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 14 changes in 1 month, and 97 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 6 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
Rafael Lima made 5 changes in 1 month, and 120 changes in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 4 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year
Rathke, Eike made 3 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
278(278) (topicUI) bugs open, 97(97) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 10(0) 26(-1) 50(-1) 82(-3)
commented 76(-46) 331(3) 762(14) 2319(1)
removed 1(1) 4(-3) 9(-1) 26(-5)
resolved 14(8) 28(4) 89(5) 286(7)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 192 changes in 1 month, and 1419 changes in 1 year
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 75 changes in 1 month, and 325 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 65 changes in 1 month, and 244 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 56 changes in 1 month, and 228 changes in 1 year
Dieter made 22 changes in 1 month, and 215 changes in 1 year
Rafael Lima made 22 changes in 1 month, and 285 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 21 changes in 1 month, and 263 changes in 1 year
Bogdan B made 17 changes in 1 month, and 46 changes in 1 year
m.a.riosv made 17 changes in 1 month, and 63 changes in 1 year
Baole Fang made 15 changes in 1 month, and 15 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 155044] Rename Format - Description menu item
+ [Bug 154081] Unnumbered headings influence the numbering of numbered headings
+ [Bug 155016] New feature: set the source/scope of AutoComplete search
+ [Bug 154985] MRU and SC add option to sort recent documents alphabetically
+ [Bug 154971] When inserting a command into a menu, it should be inserted
before/after selected item
+ [Bug 154937] The strings "Print from top" and "Print from bottom" are confusing
+ [Bug 154936] Why is it still not possible to set the title of a diagram as
formula?
+ [Bug 154953] [ feature request ] arrows in tabbed and grouped bar compact
should slide or move icons
+ [Bug 154954] User dictionary: auto-learn new words
+ [Bug 154933] Rename "Text body" to "Body text"
+ [Bug 154947] Editing a formula should not remove range overlays; instead
they should be updated
+ [Bug 154940] Rename "Variable:" to "Custom:" in the Zoom & View Layout dialog
-> + "Apply border and shadow" option should be removed from
AutoCaption dialog
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154686
+ needsDevEval
* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 94(+3) import failure, 18(-2) export failures
+ 2 coverity issues
+ 5 ossfuzz issues, no crashes
+ 1 new fuzzer, zip recovery mode
+ also an SVG one
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.6.2
+ (-7) 676 683 513 392 371 241 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.5.1.2
+ (-104) 876 980 1160 1400 1241 854 546 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.5.2.2
+ (+212) 1162 950 527 0
+ Regression in 7.5 branch
- https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SfxObjectShell::CopyStoragesOfUnknownMediaType(com::sun::star::uno::Reference%3Ccom::sun::star::embed::XStorage%3E%20const%20&,com::sun::star::uno::Reference%3Ccom::sun::star::embed::XStorage%3E%20const%20&,com::sun::star::uno::Sequence%3Crtl::OUString%3E%20const%20&)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/149724 probably stops that crash, but maybe there was something that started triggering this and its only a workaround (caolan)
* ESC tender project proposal process (Thorsten)
+ draft: see https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/YprpsFP45z7a7p3
+ idea was to give a week for feedback
+ looking forward to see the next iteration (Michael)
+ good for others to provide feedback too
+ awaiting more feedback from Thorsten (Miklos)
+ strongly suggest: we need this process to work to have the budget (Thorsten)
+ at a minimum unanimously agree with the non-bidders sign off on
the budget proposal
+ unless there is violent opposition on these things
+ last call for feedback - 1 more.
+ is it necessary to have the forever-policy if we just follow it now (Michael)
+ is the proposal use the policy to vote on the ranking ?
+ the pointless hyper-accurate estimate is a big task though.
+ suggest open up two week window of proposing (Thorsten)
+ so anyone can introduce new proposals.
+ still the wiki page with budget 2023? (Miklos)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2023
+ not prescribed how to do that (Thorsten)
+ would need a blog-post on this
+ brief announcing the process & timeline.
+ this is not a fait-a-compli from the board perspective
+ not necessary for the ESC to adopt something that may change
in a week or two anyway.
+ for the moment - just play by the rules.
+ seems totally reasonable to open the window for proposals (Michael)
+ ideally staff can chase to make it so.
+ any concerns ? (Thorsten)
+ always good to collect good ideas (Miklos)
+ concerns re: accurate estimate etc.
+ if flexibility there can iterate.
+ process is mostly asking for ESC to double check ball-park
+ can discuss in a week or two.
+ Thorsten: ok, Stephan: also concerned re: estimation,
fine with blog post now if we have more say on the document,
Xisco: can anyone propose ideas or just members ? - anyone,
Ilmari: ok, Cloph: ok to proceed - certainly not perfect, but
should not block starting, Gabriel: no problem, Caolan: ok,
Hossein: ok, Eike: ok with blog post, Heiko: ok, Miklos: ok as long
as we have flexibility later, Quikee: ok.
=> ask staff to post for ideas.
* Mentoring (Hossein)
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 188(92) 236(84) 266(89) 271(88)
reviews 442(94) 1144(6) 3576(16) 11784(102)
merged 304(4) 1096(-14) 3801(-59) 14699(67)
abandoned 13(-6) 64(-15) 200(1) 714(0)
own commits 184(-36) 779(-36) 2652(-50) 10659(10)
review commits 56(-1) 207(-7) 828(12) 2917(26)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 30(5) 52(-4) 230(-3) 237(-3)
reviews 872(42) 2674(-20) 8498(-22) 31232(104)
merged 16(10) 53(2) 185(7) 727(1)
abandoned 9(1) 27(2) 95(3) 499(-2)
own commits 26(6) 84(2) 333(12) 968(22)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 9(9) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 323(323)
total 390(390) assigned 31(31) open 333(333)
+ top 10 contributors:
Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 10 patches in 1 month, and 60 patches in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 5 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
Bogdan B made 4 patches in 1 month, and 91 patches in 1 year
Czeber László made 4 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
Baole Fang made 4 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
made 3 patches in 1 month, and 38 patches in 1 year
Vojtěch Doležal made 3 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
Bayram Çiçek made 2 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Arvind K made 2 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Franklin Weng made 1 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
McNamara, Caolán made 126 review comments in 1 month, and 1192 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 1058 in 1 year
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 1038 in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 810 in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 856 in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 312 in 1 year
Grandin, Noel made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 520 in 1 year
Timar, Andras made 54 review comments in 1 month, and 326 in 1 year
Heiko Tietze made 52 review comments in 1 month, and 298 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 50 review comments in 1 month, and 702 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned: (all from contributors/developers)
vcl: always delegate calls to SalGraphicsImpl - removes cruft ( Tomaž Vajngerl )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/132908
vcl: remove Impl specific calls from WinSalGraphics, use delegator ( Tomaž Vajngerl )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/132935
basegfx: replace typedef with a class B2ISize based on Size2D ( Tomaž Vajngerl )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/139708
tdf#152897 Fix treeview KEY_LEFT for multiple selection mode ( Jim Raykowski )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/142057
tdf#152775 Writer Navigator: Emphasize the mouse over entry ( Jim Raykowski )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/144891
Inline pixman harder ( Tor Lillqvist )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/147092
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Ahmed Eltokhy (aucegypt.edu)
jucasaca
Nabeel Siddiqui
Sarthak Roy
* Mentoring (Hossein)
* EasyHacks with difficultyInteresting
* Multiple patches in this 2 weeks
* Today is the last day to merge
* 1 merged, another 1 or 2 might be merged today
* GSoC (Ilmari)
+ timeline: 27th of April ranking needs to be done
+ mentors being invited, joining the org
+ reviews appreciated https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/status:open+-ownerin:Committers+repo:core+branch:master
+ proposals to be ranked later today
+ still open tasks? (Xisco)
+ waiting for feedback from some mentors, but that's it (Ilmari)
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
+ resting since: 6 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 257 ok: 227 ko: 22 fail ratio: 8.56% mean_ok: 10 ( 21) median_ok: 8 ( 13)
gerrit_android_arm jobs: 255 ok: 218 ko: 22 fail ratio: 8.63% mean_ok: 11 ( 21) median_ok: 8 ( 12)
gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 255 ok: 228 ko: 18 fail ratio: 7.06% mean_ok: 10 ( 19) median_ok: 8 ( 12)
gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 255 ok: 219 ko: 22 fail ratio: 8.63% mean_ok: 11 ( 21) median_ok: 8 ( 15)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 561 ok: 318 ko: 211 fail ratio: 37.61% mean_ok: 48 ( 58) median_ok: 46 ( 51)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 518 ok: 374 ko: 118 fail ratio: 22.78% mean_ok: 23 ( 29) median_ok: 21 ( 22)
gerrit_mac jobs: 536 ok: 343 ko: 153 fail ratio: 28.54% mean_ok: 42 ( 60) median_ok: 38 ( 48)
gerrit_windows jobs: 518 ok: 344 ko: 117 fail ratio: 22.59% mean_ok: 63 ( 80) median_ok: 59 ( 69)
gerrit_master jobs: 554 ok: 258 ko: 234 fail ratio: 42.24% mean_ok: 84 ( 84) median_ok: 71 ( 72)
+ https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_230427.html
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
3 CppunitTest_framework_dispatch gerrit_windows
3 CppunitTest_sd_import_tests gerrit_linux_gcc_release
4 CppunitTest_desktop_lib gerrit_linux_gcc_release
4 CppunitTest_sal_rtl gerrit_linux_gcc_release
4 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter4 gerrit_linux_gcc_release
5 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport17 gerrit_mac
5 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter4 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
6 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
6 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge gerrit_windows
21 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_mac
+ UITest_impress_tests still failing frequently on the two linux boxes but those are auto-retried now/not listed in the stats
+ normal week (Cloph)
+ 1 bot had "out of diskpace" problem, not taken offline automatically
+ except the UITest_impres_tests is still a problem, see above
* What’s cooking (Miklos)
+ Multi-page floating tables in Writer (Miklos)
+ working on DOCX-related crashtest finds
+ multi-color gradients (Armin)
+ if you want to play with that, opt in with MCGR_TEST=1
+ working on addressing failing tests when it would be on by default
+ Excel-style compact layout of pivot tables in calc (Dennis)
+ officecfg/ cleanup (Gabor)
+ removing config keys which are unused for years (Thorsten)
+ no objections (Stephan, Michael)
+ too many locking on configmgr? (Michael)
+ this is about the offiecfg/ data, not configmgr (Stephan)
+ compiling config data down to native code might be a good idea in the future (Michael)
+ will it be possible to have a vcl app without using configmgr? (Hossein)
+ configmgr usage is quite widespread (Stephan)
+ not sure we want to evangelize "VCL as a toolkit" (Michael)
+ so we can still change it when needed
+ hopefully bin/run is enough
+ think there are easier targets to help newcomers (Thorsten)
+ wonder if it's usefully spent effort
* LibreOffice conference Bucharest 2023 (Gabriel)
+ previous week Italo visited the planned venue
+ had useful discussions
+ Italo's feedback was positive
+ met the university representatives
+ about the workshop: reached out to the university last week
+ hope to get feedback on that
+ got the feedback: students are more towards python/java than c++
+ but not a big problem
* Update Microsoft Visual Studio baseline? (NoelG)
+ independent from the Windows baseline (Cloph)
+ can have multiple versions installed in parallel/different branches using
different versions also is no problem
+ open question: what benefits would that bring?
+ also: should we require it?
+ one benefit: only toolset for arm natively is 2022
+ can't remember any reason right now (Stephan)
+ c++ feature wise VS is not the bottleneck
=> suggest to do a proposal, what we gain from such an upgrade, back to Noel till then
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1118 (-14)
+ enhancements: 301 (-6)
+ needsUXEval: 13 (+2)
+ haveBackTrace: 6 (+0)
+ needsDevAdvice: 31 (-1)
+ documentation: 3 (+1)
+ android: 3 (+0)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 12 (+0)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
None
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ Crash when moving images around in a multipage table
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154863
+ not tagged as a regression
* QA stats (Stéphane)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+123 +9 (-150) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 20
Buovjaga 11
Caolán McNamara 10
Heiko Tietze 10
Julien Nabet 9
QA Administrators 9
Eike Rathke 7
Mike Kaganski 5
Roman Kuznetsov 5
BogdanB 4
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 12
Rafael Lima 7
Xisco Faulí 7
Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 6
Don Matschull 3
Timur 3
Tuomas Hietala 3
Mike Kaganski 2
NISZ LibreOffice Team 2
ady 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
McNamara, Caolán 9
Nabet, Julien 5
Heiko Tietze 4
Rathke, Eike 4
Grandin, Noel 3
Justin Luth 3
Németh, László 3
Czeber László 2
Kaganski, Mike 2
Olivier Hallot 2
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Stéphane Guillou 30
Ilmari Lauhakangas 24
Dieter 7
Heiko Tietze 7
Nabet, Julien 6
Rathke, Eike 5
Robert Großkopf 5
Xisco Fauli 5
m.a.riosv 5
Kaganski, Mike 3
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 8
Raal 6
Xisco Fauli 6
Ilmari Lauhakangas 4
csyu.279 2
Aron Budea 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 8
Raal 7
Xisco Fauli 6
Ilmari Lauhakangas 4
csyu.279 2
Aron Budea 1
Stefan_Lange_KA@xxxxxxxxxxx 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1245(-2) bugs open of 12516(+23) total 14(-1) high prio.
done by:
Ilmari Lauhakangas 6
Xisco Fauli 6
Stéphane Guillou 5
Raal 1
Robert Großkopf 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 8(+0)
Calc - 3(+0)
Draw - 1(+0)
Impress - 1(+0)
LibreOffice - 1(-1)
by OS:
All - 9(-1)
Linux - 2(+0)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 3(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 441(-2)
Calc - 226(+0)
Impress - 133(+0)
Crashes - 52(+2)
LibreOffice - 52(-2)
Writer: docx filter - 50(-2)
Draw - 49(+2)
Base - 43(-1)
UI - 37(+0)
Writer: perf - 34(+0)
Borders - 32(+0)
Writer: other filter - 30(+0)
Chart - 26(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 23(+0)
RTL - 23(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 20(-1)
BASIC - 18(+1)
filters and storage - 15(+0)
graphics stack - 12(+0)
Formula Editor - 3(+0)
Extensions - 2(+0)
sdk - 2(+0)
Linguistic - 1(+0)
framework - 1(+0)
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