* Present:
+ in-person meeting in Milan
+ Miklos, Mike Sa., Xisco, Tomaž, Eyal, Caolán, Heiko, Olivier, Jean-Pierre,
Uwe, Armin, Koji, Ilmari, Kendy, Luboš, Shinji, Juan, Michael S., Dennis,
Leif-Joren, Gabriel, Zdeněk, László, Arnaud, Hossein, Raal
* Questions from the audience
+ How do you decide what gets into the agenda?
+ ESC calls are open, you can add items to the pad + join the jitsi call (Cloph)
+ Xisco brought the macOS/firebird/app store problem to the ESC to have a decision on it
+ As somebody who does QA work, it never accured to him to take some problem to the ESC
+ what is the criteria to raise it in this call?
+ many parts of the project has their own meetings, there is no fixed rule (Cloph)
+ ESC has a qa section (Kendy)
+ high severity issues + most pressing problems discussed there
+ "which bugs to discuss" is a defined criteria
+ agenda has these prepared
+ buzilla is the right place to discuss issues (Xisco)
+ a small subset will be discussed in the ESC call
+ What discussions need a decision from the ESC?
+ usually we just do changes to master if it's not a large-scale change (Cloph)
+ then bugfixes get backported to release branches
+ when do you create release branches?
+ LibreOffice has a time-based release schedule (Kendy)
+ Cloph creates release shedules well ahead of time, 2 major releases each year
+ so allows people to get their feature in time into master
+ if an exception is needed: late feature way, if we know the feature will be late by e.g. 1-2 weeks
+ it's always an option to make a feature experimental on the release branch, to help users who would use the feature by accident
* Completed Action Items:
+ None
* Pending Action Items:
+ Enable firebird as non-experimental for macOS app store builds (Cloph)
+ pondered if it is worth doing, but otherwise would have no options at all
+ not needed for the address book / mail merge functionality
+ Base is just not used for many users
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.4 status: 7.4.2 rc2 in 1 week
+ 7.3 status: 7.3.7 rc1 in 2 weeks
+ last planned 7.3.x release
+ Appstores
+ Windows: still waiting for confirmation wrt system-wide install of fonts
+ macOS is published
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help: No news
+ Helpcontents2:
+ Updates and fixes (R. Lima, A; Timar, A Barrientos)
+ Guides
+ Work in progress
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
241(241) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
created 9(3) 34(4) 80(0) 308(-2)
commented 11(-13) 71(5) 174(0) 1266(-72)
resolved 4(3) 15(3) 37(-2) 197(2)
+ top 10 contributors:
Rafael Lima made 37 changes in 1 month, and 245 changes in 1 year
Olivier Hallot made 35 changes in 1 month, and 487 changes in 1 year
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 11 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
Heiko Tietze made 11 changes in 1 month, and 100 changes in 1 year
Tuomas Hietala made 10 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
Roman Kuznetsov made 9 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
Telesto made 8 changes in 1 month, and 37 changes in 1 year
Foote, V Stuart made 8 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 7 changes in 1 month, and 89 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 7 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
273(273) (topicUI) bugs open, 59(59) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 15(9) 21(11) 27(11) 50(11)
commented 130(72) 287(88) 537(93) 2228(63)
removed 1(1) 4(0) 8(0) 33(1)
resolved 8(-1) 33(0) 75(1) 316(4)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 185 changes in 1 month, and 1547 changes in 1 year
Rafael Lima made 75 changes in 1 month, and 174 changes in 1 year
Foote, V Stuart made 60 changes in 1 month, and 277 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 50 changes in 1 month, and 131 changes in 1 year
Timur made 48 changes in 1 month, and 121 changes in 1 year
Roman Kuznetsov made 26 changes in 1 month, and 184 changes in 1 year
Dieter made 22 changes in 1 month, and 214 changes in 1 year
steve made 18 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
Telesto made 18 changes in 1 month, and 173 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 12 changes in 1 month, and 143 changes in 1 year
+ Remove EmojiControl
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151197
+ EmojiOne font was removed in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/140623
+ it was an obsolete one anyway
+ there is also an emoji toolbar that was connected to this
+ perhaps delegate that task to the OS and be done with that?
+ won't miss the emjoi toolbar (Caolan)
* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 56(-146) import failure, 12(-8) export failures
+ expect further improvements, 2 recent fixes went in, result of that is not yet reflected here
+ at least there are now real failures, not something due to missing disk space
+ 0 coverity issues
+ first time in 1.5 years \o/
+ 9 Google / ossfuzz: 1 outstanding crash
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.5.2
+ (-31) 1341 1372 1299 1129 1355 1196 866 550 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.6.2
+ (+78) 391 313 139 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.0.3
+ (-411) 786 1197 1114 864 528 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.1.2
+ (+419) 1202 783 0
+ Regression in 7.4
https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/void%20rtl::str::release%3C_rtl_uString%3E(_rtl_uString*)
* Mentoring/easyhack update (Hossein)
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 66(-20) 126(-15) 129(-14) 138(-14)
reviews 296(-130) 1294(52) 2978(-6) 11996(6)
merged 277(-86) 1366(8) 3333(-38) 15396(-8)
abandoned 18(3) 75(11) 170(1) 837(12)
own commits 204(-62) 1030(-15) 2473(21) 11793(-42)
review commits 49(-29) 246(6) 593(-10) 3143(4)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 118(35) 190(49) 196(45) 207(47)
reviews 758(-252) 3214(-48) 7620(-124) 33204(-78)
merged 20(-4) 81(-9) 255(11) 979(-15)
abandoned 5(-1) 22(5) 70(-3) 378(0)
own commits 17(-10) 81(-2) 198(6) 1065(7)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 9(9) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 309(309)
total 372(372) assigned 13(13) open 329(329)
+ top 10 contributors:
made 13 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 11 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
Paris Oplopoios made 7 patches in 1 month, and 75 patches in 1 year
Povilas Kanapickas made 4 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
Javier Salamanca made 3 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Chenxiong Qi made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
Dante DM made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
Radhey Parekh made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
Juan C. Sanz made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
Aron Fischer made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
McNamara, Caolán made 150 review comments in 1 month, and 734 in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 900 in 1 year
Grandin, Noel made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 404 in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 746 in 1 year
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 1024 in 1 year
Thorsten Behrens made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 868 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 1100 in 1 year
Vajngerl, Tomaž made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 398 in 1 year
Christian Lohmaier made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 298 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 62 review comments in 1 month, and 502 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned:
tdf#138302: support for list overrides in DOC export ( Vasily Melenchuk )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/116516
tdf#70423 remove limit for the max number of characters in paragraphs ( Zoltán Szatmáry )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/137302
Fix html code in SF String service ( Rafael Lima )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/137329
vcl: AnimationRenderer::mpPt -> maOriginPt ( Chris Sherlock )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/76427
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Aron Fischer
* Commit Access
+ None
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
+ resting since: 2 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
* What’s cooking (Miklos)
+ opencl cleanups: last sequence of patches are pending in gerrit (Lubos)
+ Writer content controls, PDF export work is still in progress (Miklos)
* BoD asks whether we can re-evaluate LOOL atticisation (Stephan)
+ see <https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00744.html> for details: "the board resolves to postpone formally atticizing
Online for three more months. Unless the de-atticization requirements
(3 different developers contributing non-trivially) are fulfilled by then, and/or
if necessary binding corporate commitments are not made by 2022-10-01, Online
will be automatically moved to the attic."
+ apparently some activity at <https://github.com/freeonlineoffice/online>
=> ran out of time, will discuss it next week
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1744 (+11)
+ enhancements: 287 (+10)
+ needsUXEval: 11 (+9)
+ haveBackTrace: 6 (+0)
+ needsDevAdvice: 27 (+1)
+ documentation: 10 (+1)
+ android: 3 (+0)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 13 (+1)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
Old:
Fixed:
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ Calc crash when cut-paste and drag cell
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151182
+ Lubos?
+ Text layout broken across formatting changes (color, underline, etc.)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61444
+ not a regression?
+ will be mentioned with some examples in "resolution independent text layout in writer"
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+113 +41 (-124) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
خالد حسني 13
QA Administrators 9
Mike Kaganski 8
Justin L 7
Timur 7
Eike Rathke 6
Julien Nabet 6
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 5
Xisco Faulí 5
Caolán McNamara 4
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Eyal Rozenberg 8
Kevin Suo 5
Telesto 4
Mike Kaganski 3
Jeff Fortin Tam 2
Nik Gervae 2
Rafael Lima 2
Roman Kuznetsov 2
SheetJS 2
Xisco Faulí 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Kaganski, Mike 6
خالد حسني 5
Justin Luth 4
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 3
Grandin, Noel 3
McNamara, Caolán 3
Weghorn, Michael 3
Xisco Fauli 3
Sarper Akdemir 2
Andras Timar 1
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Rafael Lima 16
Nabet, Julien 7
Timur 6
Dieter 5
Xisco Fauli 5
Raal 4
Foote, V Stuart 3
Heiko Tietze 3
Rathke, Eike 3
خالد حسني 3
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
+ http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
6.0 : 1/53 - 1 % (+0)
5.4 : 0/41 - 0 % (+0)
5.3 : 0/54 - 0 % (+0)
5.2 : 0/43 - 0 % (+0)
5.1 : 0/35 - 0 % (+0)
5.0 : 0/64 - 0 % (+0)
4.4 : 0/76 - 0 % (+0)
4.3 : 0/73 - 0 % (+0)
4.2 : 2/134 - 1 % (+0)
4.1 : 3/85 - 3 % (+0)
4.0 : 2/83 - 2 % (+0)
old : 1/246 - 0 % (+0)
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+
done by:
Raal 3
Timur 3
Aron Budea 1
Kevin Suo 1
Xisco Fauli 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+
done by:
Raal 3
Timur 3
Kevin Suo 2
Aron Budea 1
Ming Hua 1
Xisco Fauli 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1188(-6) bugs open of 12030(+12) total 8(+0) high prio.
done by:
Raal 2
Kevin Suo 2
Timur 2
Aron Budea 1
Dieter 1
Ming Hua 1
Stéphane Guillou 1
Telesto 1
Foote, V Stuart 1
Xisco Fauli 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 5(+0)
Calc - 1(+0)
Draw - 1(+0)
LibreOffice - 1(+0)
by OS:
All - 7(+0)
Linux - 0(+0)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 1(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 427(-2)
Calc - 195(+0)
Impress - 118(+0)
Writer: docx filter - 59(+0)
Crashes - 53(+2)
LibreOffice - 47(+0)
Draw - 41(-1)
UI - 39(+1)
Base - 36(+0)
Writer: perf - 36(-1)
Borders - 34(+0)
Writer: other filter - 31(+0)
Chart - 23(+0)
RTL - 23(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 20(+0)
BASIC - 18(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 17(+0)
filters and storage - 14(+0)
graphics stack - 13(-1)
Formula Editor - 3(+0)
framework - 2(+0)
Linguistic - 1(+0)
sdk - 1(+0)
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