Hello, Here are some points: 1) Notarization. Reading https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2020#Fix_macOS_10.15_notarization , it seems we're stuck. Reading from last ESC (eg: http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/ESC-meeting-agenda-2020-04-02-16-00-Berlin-time-tt4276518.html), it seems we must wait for votes. Since we don't know if it'll be voted and if it's voted how much times we will have to wait for a fix, shouldn't we stop temporarily to release LO for MacOs or at least indicate not compatible with Catalina 10.15 ? 2) There was some call to pay Mac machines for some interested devs, what's the situation now? Did TDF pay them? If yes, have the machines between interested LO devs? I didn't find info on ESCs but it's quite possible I missed it. 3) About Collabora, like for Skia (see my post here: http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/SKIA-on-Windows-Roadmap-ESC-agenda-item-tt4277989.html), I think it's risky to depend only from Collabora for MacOs bugs fixing. Against, nothing against this company but LO shouldn't rely only on it. Julien -- Sent from: http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Dev-f1639786.html _______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice